Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Theophile

Moby wrote: »

https://youtu.be/n_wkO4hk07o

Our new International Trade Secretary who will getting all our new deals

Here's another Liz Truss gem.


[FONT=&quot]Eddie Mair : What do you think about having another EU referendum?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Liz Truss: A very, very, very bad idea.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]EM: But people can change their minds, can't they?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]LT: But they were told in the referendum in 2016, that their vote would be implemented, and the reality is the vote needs to be implemented. You can't..if you don't like the answer, you can't just...[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]EM: What about people who have changed their minds between then and now?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]LT: I don't think people have changed their minds...[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]EM: You have.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]LT: (Pause) I have. That's true.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]EM: Right.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]LT: In the other way though, Eddie.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]EM: Oh, I see.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]LT: But certainly the people I speak to, many of whom voted remain, say please Liz, just get on with this. They don't want another year or more of limbo asking the same question again. They just want us to deliver it.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]EM: So people can change their minds, but only if they go from Remain to Leave.[/FONT]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/liz-truss-car-crash-radio-18827722

qwert_yuiop

Theophile wrote: »

Here's another Liz Truss gem.


[FONT=&quot]Eddie Mair : What do you think about having another EU referendum?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Liz Truss: A very, very, very bad idea.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]EM: But people can change their minds, can't they?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]LT: But they were told in the referendum in 2016, that their vote would be implemented, and the reality is the vote needs to be implemented. You can't..if you don't like the answer, you can't just...[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]EM: What about people who have changed their minds between then and now?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]LT: I don't think people have changed their minds...[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]EM: You have.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]LT: (Pause) I have. That's true.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]EM: Right.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]LT: In the other way though, Eddie.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]EM: Oh, I see.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]LT: But certainly the people I speak to, many of whom voted remain, say please Liz, just get on with this. They don't want another year or more of limbo asking the same question again. They just want us to deliver it.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]EM: So people can change their minds, but only if they go from Remain to Leave.[/FONT]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/liz-truss-car-crash-radio-18827722

I’m fairly sure I could actually feel my heart sink, reading that.

SpiderLegs

Following Mr McDonnell’s delightful intervention yesterday, just thought it was reminding all you angry Lib Dem’s about what it is you are actually going to end up with.

SpiderLegs wrote: »

I sympathise with your view, however you need to accept the reality the Lib Dem’s are going to have to fall into line behind PM Jezza and their main partners in the SNP.


Corbyn will probably allow them a second independence referendum as the price of their cooperation.


So your principles are just going to deliver the !!!! show that is Jeremy and Nicola, with Jo probably left as Secretary of State for paper clips.

Next time a labour remain supporter tells us that the future of the union is in doubt we can just point them in the direction of their shadow chancellor.

Herzlos

The union is at risk anyway. Scotland is going to move towards another vote on independence whether Westminster approves or not.

lisyloo

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Following Mr McDonnell’s delightful intervention yesterday, just thought it was reminding all you angry Lib Dem’s about what it is you are actually going to end up with.


Next time a labour remain supporter tells us that the future of the union is in doubt we can just point them in the direction of their shadow chancellor.

Not sure why you think this is a big issue.
If Scotland want to leave then they should be able to.
Choosing is not the same as being out at risk.

SpiderLegs

lisyloo wrote: »

Not sure why you think this is a big issue.
If Scotland want to leave then they should be able to.
Choosing is not the same as being out at risk.

I don’t think it’s a big issue as I won’t be voting Lib Dem. I also don’t care if the Scots have a referendum every week if that’s what they want.
Lib Dem voters might find the idea that they are as important as change uk in the grand scheme of things a little disheartening though.
Especially if they are ex-labour blairites who are clinging to the hope that they can hold the balance of power as they did in 2010.

qwert_yuiop

Herzlos wrote: »

The union is at risk anyway. Scotland is going to move towards another vote on independence whether Westminster approves or not.

What if they vote 52/48 for independence? Will that settle it? Because it does not look like it will?

Moe_The_Bartender

qwert_yuiop wrote: »

What if they vote 52/48 for independence? Will that settle it? Because it does not look like it will?

I'm wondering if the UK Government would take a lead from the EU and insist that the SNP agree up front to pay Scotland's share of the National debt before they talk about anything else. And that they go and raise the money on the financial markets.

I'm also thinking that the Unionists will hit the SNP with all of the Remoaner arguments .

It's only advisory.
People can change their mind
This isn't what you promised
Nobody voted for this deal or no deal.
Nobody voted to be poorer
Etc.

Maybe there will be a few legal challenges thrown in ?

It would be great to see all their Remoaner troll activity turned right back on them !

Herzlos

It will be beautiful to watch the brexiteer Tories trying to justify why Scotland should stay in the UK but the UK shouldn't stay in the EU. There will be a serious hypocrisy overload.

Tromking

Herzlos wrote: »

It will be beautiful to watch the brexiteer Tories trying to justify why Scotland should stay in the UK but the UK shouldn't stay in the EU. There will be a serious hypocrisy overload.

No hypocrisy when you’re comparing a 300 hundred year old political union with a barely 40 year old membership of a trading bloc. McDonnell’s comments are a gift to the Scottish Tories, they can quite legitimately say to Unionists that they are only party that can stop a 2nd independence vote.