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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

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  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Zuzel wrote: »
    New?
    I've been here months .... how long have you been away for, exactly - and was it through choice or forced?

    Oh you've been here for months. ;)

    Choice of course.
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • Zuzel
    Zuzel Posts: 188 Forumite
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    Oh you've been here for months. ;)

    Choice of course.
    Yes months - not permanently of course; I have a life outside of the internet.

    What's with the persistent affliction by way of wink emoticon?
    If you're being a bit forward I warn you not to bother.
  • lisyloo
    lisyloo Posts: 30,090 Forumite
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    Zuzel wrote: »
    What's with the persistent affliction by way of wink emoticon?
    If you're being a bit forward I warn you not to bother.

    I get it, you two are married aren’t you? :T:
  • Zuzel
    Zuzel Posts: 188 Forumite
    It looks like my earlier suggesting about suing the EU might be on the mind of our government.
    Brexit: EU 'refusing to negotiate', says Gove
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49251257
  • Zuzel
    Zuzel Posts: 188 Forumite
    lisyloo wrote: »
    I get it, you two are married aren’t you? :T:
    :rotfl: Wrong :rotfl:
    Maybe they will explain it to me.
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Tromking wrote: »
    I know it will be disappointing for you when Brexit turns out to be the rather boring benign event it was always going to be, but I hope you and others will have the good grace to come on here and front up. Everyone should have it within themselves to admit when they get things wrong.

    You're on, Trommy.
    Equally I hope, that when it all goes tits up, you'll have the good grace to admit brexit was a mistake and not indulge in your usual blaming of the EU, remainers, Scots, the elites, migrants, etc....
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • adindas
    adindas Posts: 6,856 Forumite
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    edited 6 August 2019 at 6:07PM
    phillw wrote: »
    If it wasn't so important then I'd agree. Boris has to be stopped.
    .

    You do it. Please inform the forum or link to your blog what you have done to do this. Waiting for your action plan.

    Many People who voted for Brexit see him and Nigel Farage as the democtratic heroes who defend democratic decision of a nation taken in the referendum. They are people who stand off against the EU to save the country from humiliation from the EU caused by the weakest and the worst PM in the british History.
  • adindas
    adindas Posts: 6,856 Forumite
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    edited 6 August 2019 at 6:08PM
    gfplux wrote: »
    I just do not understand Brexiters now starting the blame game.

    Britain requested to leave the EU.
    Britain triggered the A50
    Britain sat down with the EU to negotiate the withdrawal
    Britain and the EU agreed a withdrawal/transition/political understanding deal.

    THEN AND ONLY THEN The British Government regects the deal.

    If Britain leave the EU at the end of October without a deal there are a lot of people to blame but NOT the EU.

    Please save me from Brexiters crying that Brexit was not a huge success because those awful people of the EU.

    If you get Brexit, just suck it up. You wanted it, you got it now shut up.


    Brexit and negotiation for a deal for the GB leave the EU are two defferent things. The UK have decided to leave the EU. The people voted for it in the referendum, remainer lost in the referendum. The parliament voted for it end of ...Stop remoaning.

    It is now the negotiation part and the impact of the No deal Brexit

    In your own negotiation if the option is to leave without a deal or to have a deal that will suck your blood for the rest of your life and leave you with humiliation, which one you choose?? In the past there were a few examples where countries prepared to go war for this reason alone, let alone just Brexit which only have a short-term impact (not a long term).

    The situation could have been worse. Just imagine those who experienced the second world war ? Is the impact anywhere near with no -deal Brexit ?

    Also with No-deal Ireland will suffer the most, considering 85% of Ireland Import/ Export will depend on the UK ports. But people there are more united. If Ireland could take it than UK must be able to cushion the brexit impact more smoothly.
  • adindas
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    edited 6 August 2019 at 5:46PM
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    You're on, Trommy.
    Equally I hope, that when it all goes tits up, you'll have the good grace to admit brexit was a mistake and not indulge in your usual blaming of the EU, remainers, Scots, the elites, migrants, etc....

    Why admit it is a mistake if the UK is still in the EU. You have not seen what life after Brexit. Brexit is a about the long term benefit. You have not seen what happen in the long run.

    What you currenty see is the UK are still in the EU and the remoaners keep disrupting Brexit. Not yet Brexit. The remoaners tie up the UK in the negotiation make it extremely difficult for an effective negotiation.

    If you do not want to see disruption than stop remoaning. Keep in mind the people voted for it in the referendum, the parliament voted for it while they still had a very good chance to reverse it.
  • melanzana
    melanzana Posts: 3,953 Forumite
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    What is all this talk about reopening negotiations for a new deal from the EU?

    UK couldn't negotiate its way out of a paper bag at this stage, they failed all the way along so far.

    UK wanted to leave.
    It voted to leave.
    It invoked A50 (without a sketch of a plan)
    It didn't leave because UK really NEEDS a plan.
    The backstop was a proposal of the UK.
    Now the backstop is an undemocratic backstop.
    The EU and the UK negotiated a WA.
    Parliament voted it down.
    Parliament has no alternative.
    UK could have left the day after A50 was invoked
    It continued to accept extension after extension.
    UK really NEEDS a deal
    So blame the Irish, the EU, Leo Varadker, anyone and everyone apart from the UK idiots who advocate no deal.

    The EU is standing firm.

    Anyway Dominic Cummings is our de facto PM now. Talk about unelected bureaucrats in the EU. Oh My.
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