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Caught Speeding
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p.s. Remember, car speedometer must be correct or show more than you are doing - if you are showing 70 you are doing maybe as low as 63mph, so again you cannot get caught!
Agreed. It would be unlikely to be as low as 63 MPH - i think they're accurate to 5% not 10%. Any time i've compared it to my sat nav its being with 2-5%.
But yes in a 30 i do no more than 30, 40 a 40, etc.0 -
And does that like like an urban area to you? Because i dont think you could guarantee it was or wasnt.
And like you i would err on the side of caution and assume it was a 30 but its not "obvious" its a 30 is it? Which was my point.
So you can't guarantee what it is, so you drive at 30 just in case, until you see a sign. It doesn't matter if it's obvious or not because it's a basic part of driving to know what the law is and err on the side of caution! If you WORK in the area and travel there every day, you have no excuse."they don't go around looking for spots where people might get confused and drive a bit fast" - yes they do because they use it for revenue earning!
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Clearly the police have nothing better to do than hang around in areas where there may be nobody around on the off chance a random person doesn't know the area and drives at 40 in a 30. Rather than say sitting on bridges over dual carriageways or places near villages where people might be speeding in or out or areas with lots of traffic reliably. Almost certainly in this area they've had reports of drivers ignoring the 30mph limit and decided to see if they could fine them.
Perhaps you could comment on the other points raised, such as the incorrect information about Bedfordshire police rather than doubling down even after you were proven wrong?Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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Yep, everything you need to know is in that picture.So if you were a stranger to this road you could tell its a 30 then could you?
Not obvious is it?
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Oh come on now. I bet you were laughing when you typed that!
Look at that road in those pictures. Its revenue earning. Plain and simple. If its a "hotspot" for people breaking the 30MPH limit then in the first instance use one of those police signs that flashes up your speed, or maybe stick a couple of 30MPH signs up?
Streetlights? Yep.
Repeaters? Nope.
30mph.
If you drive a short distance, and there's a repeater, then the repeater tells you that the limit is not the default.0 -
You've just proven what i said - its "obvious" if you know that. There is no logical reason that that is the case, its just that a rule has been created saying that. If you dont know the rule its not "obvious".
Unless you know that the streetlights means its a 30, theres nothing at all in that street view to suggest it is.
https://www.instantstreetview.com/@54.601466,-1.577533,0h,5p,0z
While I understand what you mean, it's still an irrelevant point because anyone with a UK licence should know that the streetlights mean it's a 30.
Just like they should know that you give way to the right at roundabouts.
And that a red sign with a white horizontal line across it means 'no entry'.
There is no 'logic' to these rules either - they are just rules - but to pass a driving test you have to know them. While some people clearly don't, that's their failing - not the system's.
By your argument, I could say that if you don't know that the red sign with a horizontal line means 'no entry', there is nothing on StreetView to suggest that a road is a one-way street. No, there's not - because no other 'suggestion' is necessary.0 -
odd comment? if the speed limiter is on the you concentrate on whats going on around you rather than looking at the speedo constantly as you go through 20,30,40,20 etc....
It was in reference to the number and frequency of SAC's attended. Some people never learn and if that is the case, I would rather not meet them on the road.Life isn't about the number of breaths we take, but the moments that take our breath away. Like choking....0 -
Streetlights alone mean nothing. Repeaters (or the lack of) are also a factor.Shoshannah wrote: »While I understand what you mean, it's still an irrelevant point because anyone with a UK licence should know that the streetlights mean it's a 30.
Two roads, both with street lighting yet neither road is a 30mph limit.
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The first is not a 30 limit because the local authority has set and signed a lower limit so the presence of street lighting is irrelevant - if there was no 20 limit then it would be 30 because of the street lights.George_Michael wrote: »Streetlights alone mean nothing. Repeaters (or the lack of) are also a factor.
Two roads, both with street lighting yet neither road is a 30mph limit.
The second is a motorway or under the terms of the Highways Act a Special Road which means that each individual motorway has separate Orders that specify a National Limit of 70 unless a different limit is signed. Unlike normal highways street lighting is not linked to the speed limit in the Orders for a motorway. Scotland has taken an additional step in erecting 70 signs on entry slip roads to ensure that nobody can claim that they didn't know the legal limit.0 -
Nearly_Old wrote: »The first is not a 30 limit because the local authority has set and signed a lower limit so the presence of street lighting is irrelevant - if there was no 20 limit then it would be 30 because of the street lights.
Agreed, but that was exactly my point which was that street lights alone can't always be taken to "mean it's a 30."
I know of plenty of 40 mph and 50 mph roads that also have street lighting.0 -
George_Michael wrote: »Agreed, but that was exactly my point which was that street lights alone can't always be taken to "mean it's a 30."
I know of plenty of 40 mph and 50 mph roads that also have street lighting.
They also have repeater signs. And potholes which stop you going too fast.0 -
George_Michael wrote: »Streetlights alone mean nothing. Repeaters (or the lack of) are also a factor.
So change my post to 'the streetlights in the absence of repeater signs mean it's a 30'.
You are of course correct, but the ultimate point of my post is unchanged.0
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