Caught Speeding

motorguy

caprikid1 wrote: »

Sounds like a great case where a speed awareness course would be of benefit for the OP to have better understanding of national speed limits where the signage is not clear.

I think thats exactly it.

Nasqueron

motorguy wrote: »

"obvious" only if you know that that system of street lighting means theres a 30 limit in place.

Clearly the O/P didnt.

It is generally recommended that one reads the highway code when learning to drive. After Rule 123 the section on speed limits starts.

Built-up areas limit is 30mph. The guidance says:

"The 30 mph limit usually applies to all traffic on all roads with street lighting unless signs show otherwise."

Rule 124 reiterates this

"The presence of street lights generally means that there is a 30 mph (48 km/h) speed limit unless otherwise specified."

Aylesbury_Duck

That road has 30mph signs as you enter it from either end, as well as the regular lamppost spacing.

luckyduck83

motorguy wrote: »

+1

I use my speed limiter or cruise control (if appropriate to do so) when in a 30 or 40MPH zone. Far too easy to stray over by a few miles per hour.

I do too, and I also use it in 20 zones (much to the annoyance of every driver behind me).

waamo

PierremontQuaker03 wrote: »

Also another question, reviewed the ticket and they wrote the wrong time -it happened at 16:23 - yet the police officer wrote 17:23 - can anything be done with an admin error?

It is of no benefit to you as you were stopped at the time. They are only required to give information verbally if you are stopped. You have suffered no disadvantage.

PierremontQuaker03

My anger is the fact that, yes the road is 30 mph - but the surrounding roads are 40 mph. At the end of the road where I was caught, you go across the round about and the limit changes to 40mph - and on this road there is a rubbish tip (which often has cars backing up on the road when the tip is busy) then a further 100 meters down the road is a college which has parents dropping kids off, school warning signs, kids running across the road getting off buses yet the limit is 40 mph!!! It just defies logic!

Aylesbury_Duck

PierremontQuaker03 wrote: »

My anger is the fact that, yes the road is 30 mph - but the surrounding roads are 40 mph. At the end of the road where I was caught, you go across the round about and the limit changes to 40mph - and on this road there is a rubbish tip (which often has cars backing up on the road when the tip is busy) then a further 100 meters down the road is a college which has parents dropping kids off, school warning signs, kids running across the road getting off buses yet the limit is 40 mph!!! It just defies logic!

Put your anger to good use. Speak to your local councillor or MP to see if you can get the limit reduced in the area of risk you highlight.

DoaM

!!!!!! happens. I was done for doing 41 in a 30 (fair cop: it was a dual-carriageway road with no houses or anything else, so 30 was a stupid limit, but it was signed so entirely my fault) ... 4 months later the speed limit was changed to 40.

motorguy

Nasqueron wrote: »

It is generally recommended that one reads the highway code when learning to drive. After Rule 123 the section on speed limits starts.

Built-up areas limit is 30mph. The guidance says:

"The 30 mph limit usually applies to all traffic on all roads with street lighting unless signs show otherwise."

Rule 124 reiterates this

"The presence of street lights generally means that there is a 30 mph (48 km/h) speed limit unless otherwise specified."

You've just proven what i said - its "obvious" if you know that. There is no logical reason that that is the case, its just that a rule has been created saying that. If you dont know the rule its not "obvious".

Unless you know that the streetlights means its a 30, theres nothing at all in that street view to suggest it is.

https://www.instantstreetview.com/@54.601466,-1.577533,0h,5p,0z

AdrianC

It's one of the most basic rules of the road in the UK, and it has been in place unchanged for longer than most drivers have been alive.

If they've forgotten it, that's their problem and their fault. Nobody else's. What other basic driving skills and knowledge have they forgotten...?