If there is a second referendum ...

mayonnaise

adindas wrote: »

I propose those who wanted to stay in the EU to pay for the membership fee a special tax taken out from their own pocket including EUR39bil divorce fee and EUR9 bil pa membership fee.

If it is inevitable and can not be controlled it should allow freeriders. How does it sound ??? :eek: :eek: :eek:

I can't make head nor tail of it, but otherwise it sounds like a fine proposal.

adindas

mayonnaise wrote: »

I can't make head nor tail of it, but otherwise it sounds like a fine proposal.

Well thanks again for the compliment

mayonnaise

Matt_L wrote: »

Well those that wanted a second referendum have finally come to their senses, probably realising theres no appetite for it either in the country or Parliament..

Plans to vote on a second referendum have been dropped...

That's good news. As a second referendum with a Leave win would have been the only way to secure a hard brexit.

With 'no deal' about to be shot down in parliament, it's now full steam ahead towards a BINO.

Matt_L

mayonnaise wrote: »

That's good news. As a second referendum with a Leave win would have been the only way to secure a hard brexit.

With 'no deal' about to be shot down in parliament, it's now full steam ahead towards a BINO.

So theres going to be new legislation to stop no deal? News that to me.

I know Copper will lay down an amendment which alters very little, but you grasp at whichever straws make you happy and we will watch them burn, one after another.

Tick tok.....:beer:

mayonnaise

Matt_L wrote: »

So theres going to be new legislation to stop no deal? News that to me.

I know Copper will lay down an amendment which alters very little, but you grasp at whichever straws make you happy and we will watch them burn, one after another.

Tick tok.....:beer:

Time will tell, matey.

adindas

What about having the second referendum but the people who propose the second referendum to pay for the whole cost including the campaign for both sides ???

Also if the remoaners win they should pay the EU membership fee coming out from their own pocket including EUR39 bil divorce bill (if any) and annual membership.

This is what you are asking for is it not ?? How does it sound ....

I think this is the most amicable solution minimizing the risk of civil unrest or worse civil war.

If it sounds good please put forward this proposal to your own MP.

badmemory

I find it interesting that people only seem to think there will be civil unrest if under 52% don't get there way, but there will be none if over 48% don't get their way. How much civil unrest do you think there will be from remainers when the jobs all go to Europe & their houses land up in negative equity again. And from the leavers when the price of imported milk goes up by 30% the WTO tariff & the tories go back to austerity & stop the tax credits etc.


How she can say that not doing what the leavers want will destroy social cohesion, when it has already been destroyed, talk about naive. The 70s were bad enough but now everyone is so much more violent than they were I am really not looking forward to the next few years.

Herzlos

The people moaning about civil unrest should Brexit be overturned are the same ones that don't want Brexit overturned. I agree that there will likely be more civil unrest if Brexit happens - when all those people who voted to become better off discover that they aren't.

adindas wrote: »

What about having the second referendum but the people who propose the second referendum to pay for the whole cost including the campaign for both sides ???

Also if the remoaners win they should pay the EU membership fee coming out from their own pocket including EUR39 bil divorce bill (if any) and annual membership.

This is what you are asking for is it not ?? How does it sound ....

If the remoaners win, then there won't be a divorce fee?


To be honest I'm happy paying the EUR9/year for membership, it's not far off what I'd need to pay for the VISA waiver. Would the Leavers be happy to take on the increased tax burden and job losses for the damage done by Brexit? Or to pay for the running of the Department for Exiting the EU as well as all the other material costs of a Brexit? That's likely to be more than the divorce bill on it's own.

adindas

Herzlos wrote: »

The people moaning about civil unrest should Brexit be overturned are the same ones that don't want Brexit overturned. I agree that there will likely be more civil unrest if Brexit happens - when all those people who voted to become better off discover that they aren't.

If the remoaners win, then there won't be a divorce fee?

With organisation such as EU everything could happen. How could you be so sure they do not twist the law knowing that you are so desperate ???

Which organisation punish their members for leaving. Well there are only a handful of them, ISIS, criminal gang such as those originated from italy.

Herzlos wrote: »

To be honest I'm happy paying the EUR9/year for membership, it's not far off what I'd need to pay for the VISA waiver. Would the Leavers be happy to take on the increased tax burden and job losses for the damage done by Brexit? Or to pay for the running of the Department for Exiting the EU as well as all the other material costs of a Brexit? That's likely to be more than the divorce bill on it's own.

Where did you get the EUR 9 per year from? Try to mislead people or something to do with math ?

UK was paying about £ 19bil pa (net contribution about £9 bil) divide that with the UK population of 66 mil. It is £287 pa nowhere near the figure you have quoted. Happy to pay that.

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

If only the remoaners pay the country membership fee, it will be multiple of £287. Keep in mind it is only the remoaners adult paying tax who are eligible to vote will get involved in paying for the whole country EU membership. Also knowing that UK is so desperate there is no reason not to put condition of taking out the rebate the Uk is currently getting.

Also what is the cost of democracy that have been taken out from leavers. If you do not know I will spell it out. It is priceless. No money could buy.

kabayiri

Doesn't a 2nd ref rely on a degree of good will from the EU?

They don't seem to be too keen on extending the time frame for an unknown outcome which might deliver a worse position (from their perspective).