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anicecuppa

Thanks - I will do some more work on this. It was based on one that I saw someone else submit - but I will trim it down and if people have time for further thoughts when I have done that I would appreciate them.  I hadn't appreciated the subtlety of delaying the AOS - but as has been said, should still be time to get this tidied up.

anicecuppa

Finally had some space to look at this again.  Having re-read a few posts, here is the revised section 2 and 3.  Less than 20% of the original length :-)  Will this be enough (in conjunction with the current template defence)?

The facts as known to the Defendant:

2.       It is admitted that the Defendant was the registered keeper of the vehicle in question but liability is denied. It is admitted that the Defendant was the driver.

3.       As a first-time user of the car park there was no clear distinction between spaces belonging to this car park and the spaces belonging to the adjacent premises.  The Defendant believed that this was a space available for patrons of either premises.  There was no sign to the contrary at the entrance to the car park and the signs on which the Claimant are relying were of a very small size, in a very small (illegible unless standing right next to it) font, on a wall which was behind the driver when parking.  There was no demarcation or obvious difference between this space and the spaces next to it which belonged to the bank which I visited for less than 5 minutes.

anicecuppa

2 further questions.  Is it still recommended to print and post?  If so, I will need to get it off in the next day or two.  Any idea what the current 'wait' is before any hearing?  All I hear in the news is the Covid has put massive delays into the court system.  Once again, thanks for all the help on this.

KeithP

anicecuppa said:

Is it still recommended to print and post?  If so, I will need to get it off in the next day or two.

Please read again my post of 8 January at 3:03PM.

It included these words...

To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.

See those words by email?

anicecuppa

Sorry if my questions seem obvious to you.  In the long post by bargepole kindly explaining what to do when he suggests printing rather than using an online box.  I know you are very familiar with all the different threads and posts because you're posting regularly.  For those of us dealing with one of these for the first time it might not be as obvious as it seems to you.  But an email would certainly be quicker than posting.  Thank you.  Any feedback on the wording?

anicecuppa

I have re-read that post and got the email address.  I'm juggling a lot of balls at the moment and dropping in and out of this.

Umkomaas

Definitely via pdf attached to an email. Do not use the MCOL Defence box.

anicecuppa

I will definitely email.  Much preferred. Are my sections 2 and 3 ok (in conjunction with the standard defence)?

Le_Kirk

anicecuppa said:

I will definitely email.  Much preferred. Are my sections 2 and 3 ok (in conjunction with the standard defence)?

Yep, you can expand on that in the witness statement and prove your case with photos.  Get the photos now (if you can) in case things change between now and the court hearing.

anicecuppa

Thanks.  I took some 2 years ago (when this all kicked off) and some more recently when I started to prepare the next stages.  Thanks for the encouragement - definitely needing that at the moment...