Smoking in garden

moneyistooshorttomention

PasturesNew wrote: »

These days a detached house might have just 1' of land between it and the neighbours.... and be only about 15' wide.

I certainly differentiate between "really detached", "only just detached" and "link detached".

Mine is a "really detached" - but, if I stood smoking at the nearest point in my garden to next door neighbour, then the smoke would only have about 6' or so to travel before it could go in their nearest window to me.

wesleyad

This makes me laugh, same thing happened to us. Our neighbour has a "smoking chair" by his patio he sits in maybe once a day. Smoke sometimes drifted into our bedroom. I went round and said "HI mate, sorry to be a pain, but sometimes when you smoke it drifts into our bedroom"

DId he:

A Came onto a forum complaining how anal I was, having the audacity to suggest he walk on the GRASS to smoke (I kid you not, THE GRASS!). He has a right to smoke where he wants!

B Say "oh I am sorry, didn't realize it was doing that, how about I move the chair over the other side of the garden?"

Yes it was B, and he even has flipflops for when it's wet. Nice chap.

catflap11

I think some people have a filter that translated the question I asked to making it sound like I was whinging, please point out where I was complaining.

I think its clear where some of the anti smoking brigade stand and their fundamentalist zeal in the way they have shot me down. Thanks to those of you who have expressed an opinion in a less hysterical way (both pro and against smoking).

Rosemary7391

rtho782 wrote: »

If you smoke in your home, 100% of the smoke is contained inside.

This isn't true - homes are not airtight boxes. Not a problem in detached houses but in flats or terraces it would be better to smoke outside, at least from the neighbours point of view. In my flat it mostly comes up in the hall, which has no window so is really hard to get rid of.

SnooksNJ

catflap11 wrote: »

I think some people have a filter that translated the question I asked to making it sound like I was whinging, please point out where I was complaining.

I think its clear where some of the anti smoking brigade stand and their fundamentalist zeal in the way they have shot me down. Thanks to those of you who have expressed an opinion in a less hysterical way (both pro and against smoking).

Perhaps you should advise your neighbor not to have any more children because you sought out further advice on the MSE board. The conclusion was, discounting the advice by the fundamental zealots on the board, that smoking under a child's window was your right.


What Is Secondhand Smoke?

It can come from a cigarette, cigar, or pipe. Tobacco smoke has more than 4,000 chemical compounds, at least 250 are known to cause disease.
Exposure to secondhand smoke raises the risk -- by as much as 30 percent -- that others will get lung cancer and many other types of cancer, it can lead to emphysema, and it is bad for your heart.
Smoke makes your blood stickier, raises your "bad" LDL cholesterol, and damages the lining of your blood vessels. Eventually, these changes can make you more likely to have a heart attack or stroke.

Dangers for Children

Kids are particularly at risk for the effects of secondhand smoke because their bodies are still growing and they breathe at a faster rate than adults.
These conditions have been linked to secondhand smoke exposure in children:

• Sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS)
• More respiratory infections (such as bronchitis and pneumonia)
• More severe and frequent asthma attacks
• Ear infections
• Chronic cough

Smoking during pregnancy is especially dangerous to the developing baby. It's tied to premature delivery, low birth weight, SIDS, limited mental ability, trouble with learning, and ADHD. The more cigarettes a mother-to-be smokes, the greater the danger to her baby.
How to Avoid Secondhand Smoke

It's simple: Avoid being around people who are smoking, and try to convince those around you who smoke to quit. Anyone who does smoke should do so outside, as far away from other people as possible.
Your home is probably the most important place to keep smoke-free, especially if you have children. Keeping kids (and adults) far away from smoke can help lower their chances of having respiratory infections, severe asthma, cancer, and many other serious conditions.

catflap11

Thanks for that, a little unsure how it is my responsibility to look after someone else's kids?

SnooksNJ

catflap11 wrote: »

Thanks for that, a little unsure how it is my responsibility to look after someone else's kids?

I'm glad we have reached a conclusion to this. It's not your responsibility and you are going to smoke where you want to.

ReadingTim

Ultimately this is about where one person's right to enjoy themselves impacts someone else's right to enjoy themselves; be it by smoking, listening to loud music, whatever vs breathing cleaner air, enjoying peace & quiet, etc. Your rights don't trump my rights, therefore in a civilised society we should consider the impact of our actions on others, f only to promote social cohesion. Not to do so is, by its very definition, anti-social.

moneyistooshorttomention

catflap11 wrote: »

Thanks for that, a little unsure how it is my responsibility to look after someone else's kids?

For the same reason it's your responsibility generally not to knowingly harm anyone else (child or otherwise).

Or shall we turn that round and say "Okay do what you please/be as selfish as you like to other people - and expect them to act exactly the same way back to you and do things like barge into you if you are walking along where they wish to be walking along etc"?

spadoosh

Smodlet wrote: »

Does that not depend on the OP's individual tastes? They can whip themselves all they like (to death, for all I care) so long as they are quiet about it and do not disturb the neighbours. They can inflict all the damage they like on themselves; they have no right whatsoever to inflict it on anyone else.

Smoking does affect the neighbours. Why does anyone think it acceptable to force their neighbours to close their windows when they want them open? Why?

Why? Because i simply do not care what a neighbour thinks i should do on my own property.

Courtesy works both ways, commenting on how people live is simply not courteous.

Its not for me to dictate how others live. My neighbour has had a wasp nests that is pretty near my daughters bedroom window. Im sure some would ask the neighbour to get it removed etc etc. The simplest solution by far though and completely removes the need to rely on anyone else but myself is to just close her bedroom window.

It always comes down to people looking down on others for how they live. The issue i always see with this is i can find fault in every single person, rip them to shreds, nullify any argument or stance they might take. When they can match my utopian standards, they have every right to expect me to meet theirs. At the moment though theyre alwyas hypocritical.

Youre just showing your intolerance.

The best thing about fascist people is they cant help but expose them self.