Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

buglawton

phillw wrote: »

Voters were clearly told what the effects of leaving would be. They don't get let off just because you thought everything would be fine regardless.

They were told that Brexit would be led by a Remainer government?

Arklight

buglawton wrote: »

The EU IS an awful idea that created economic chaos and separated us from our most important trading partners.

You took (most) of the words out of my mouth.

Yes, the Commonwealth countries just love the Brits...

Arklight

Huge lead in the polls for Remain as support for Brexit collapses

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/20/polls-stay-eu-yougov-brexit-peoples-vote

kabayiri

buglawton wrote: »

The EU IS an awful idea that created economic chaos and separated us from our most important trading partners.

You took (most) of the words out of my mouth.

For the first part of our membership I actually thought the EU was fairly benign.

Member states were of similar capability.

But the last 20 years has seen too much political ambition IMO.

The Euro introduction in the same time frame as EU expansion was simply too much.

Merkel's disastrous refugee decision has exposed the rifts between states when it comes to true movement of people.

I give the project 10 years before it is either fundamentally altered or it collapses in bitter acrimony.

Meanwhile, China and the USA will sit back and laugh.

BLB53

Because it's an awful idea that will create economic chaos, separate us from our most important trading partners, and trash our exchange rate so it will cost a week's salary to import a pineapple.

Ahh, but it will be OUR chaos...

BobQ

Arklight wrote: »

Because it's an awful idea that will create economic chaos, separate us from our most important trading partners, and trash our exchange rate so it will cost a week's salary to import a pineapple.

Exactly like in the 1970s that you are all so fond of.

I agree with you and will continue to argue Brexit is a very big mistake.

That said if one believes the analysis of the stereotypes who voted for it the majority of those who voted for it will be the ones who suffer these consequences. Sure some relatively wealthy people who voted Leave (like BoJo and Farage) and some moderately wealthy pensioners will also benefit, but its those in working class areas who thought that Brexit would solve all their problems be it poverty, immigration or the NHS who will really suffer the consequences.

The Leave campaign just told people what was wrong with their lives and offered Brexit as the generic solution to it. May has tried to moderate the impact and made herself unpopular, but she still does not understand her destiny is to be remembered as the PM that was only following orders not showing leadership

BobQ

buglawton wrote: »

They were told that Brexit would be led by a Remainer government?

They had the opportunity to elect a different Government. How well did UKIP do in the 2017 GE?

Herzlos

buglawton wrote: »

They were told that Brexit would be led by a Remainer government?

Where are the Leavers trying to take over or help out?

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

Where are the Leavers trying to take over or help out?

I thought they tried to take over a couple of weeks ago and failed.

kabayiri

BobQ wrote: »

They had the opportunity to elect a different Government. How well did UKIP do in the 2017 GE?

How well did LibDem do, more appropriately?

All you Brexit dissidents had the chance to vote them into power on their anti-Brexit ticket, and you all *bottled* it.