Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

gfplux

vivatifosi wrote: »

Sky Ticker running a couple of interesting headlines out of the EU preparations for a no deal Brexit. 14 measures, including:


Agree to let trucks cross borders until end of2019 providing UK agreement to same.
Pet Passports held by UK citizens resident in the UK will cease to be valid as of 29th March.
Rail Operator permit for UK cos in Europe will cease 29th March.


Gfplux, hopefully you will see the comment about protecting the right of British citizens residing in the UK reassuring.



More info on air transport, finance etc can be viewed here:


http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-6851_en.htm

I do, however we all hope that the protection will be within legal agreements between the EU and Britain.
People relying on reassurances from Governments have often been betrayed. Windrush is the most recent to come to light,

Zero_Gravitas

buglawton wrote: »

And if we get a hard landing it'll be down to the wasted 2 years that should've gone into solid WTO planning. I'll know where the responsibity lies.

Yes. Firmly with the brexiteers who have consistently completely failed to take any responsibility for what they had done.

cogito

gfplux wrote: »

You completely missed the point of the paragraph. Please read it again, please.
To rephrase..... I wish business leaders had been more vocal in describing the downside of Brexit and leaving without a deal. If they had spoken up more vocally it might have changed some people’s attitude.
They did not speak out as that may damaged the share price, their company’s reputation and or their bonus.
I have posted on many occasions that underneath the surface the uncertainty of Brexit was making business make plans that would not be in the interests of Britain as those plans as normal would put the company and their interest first.
I am disturbed by your speed reading ability that you have misunderstood not only my post but my whole position on contingency planning.

I didn’t misunderstand anything. Some UK business leaders have spoken out but others just get on with their jobs.and if they haven’t done their planning, they won't keep their jobs for long.

You are also overlooking the fact that you can make the same comments about business leaders in the EU. The Germans have been slavishly following the EU line that only the UK will be harmed by Brexit. It's taken until now for Eric Schweitzer, head of the German Chambers of Commerce and Industry to speak out about the harm that Brexit will do to German manufacturers and by extension to other EU countries, especially Italy with whom they are intertwined.

qwert_yuiop

ChopperST wrote: »

Saving that amount in cash is pretty much guaranteed to be eroded in inflation over 10 years.

I’ve no doubt someone who is that financially astute ( well done, by the way) is well aware of savings bonds, high interest accounts, the lot, which is why he has saved that much. There’s been very little inflation in recent years.

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

The Germans have been slavishly following the EU line that only the UK will be harmed by Brexit.

No they haven't. They've acknowledged from the start that Brexit will hurt everyone, but what they haven't done is prioritize the UK over the EU. Most of the German businesses are happy to take a hit on UK trade in order to maintain the EU project, because that's what's better for them.


It's a total strawman to keep claiming that anyone things the EU will be unharmed by the UK's economic suicide - it just doesn't hold up to any scrutiny.

kabayiri

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

Yes. Firmly with the brexiteers who have consistently completely failed to take any responsibility for what they had done.

If there is a fine or punishment levy that was on the voting paper, then by all means point it out, and I'm sure people will pay !

It is clearly *not* the voters fault for participating in a referendum designed by people who are paid.

Levy your complaint at head of Remain, one David Cameron. He didn't even have the courage to see through what he initiated. He "completely failed to take any responsibility for what he had done".

Moe_The_Bartender

Herzlos wrote: »

Most of the German businesses are happy to take a hit on UK trade in order to maintain the EU project, because that's what's better for them.

Really?

So why is Eric Schweitzer, head of German chambers of commerce, saying this:

“Brexit threatens massive consequences for the German economy. We must be clear what this is all about. More than 750,000 jobs in Germany depend on exports to Great Britain. Just-in-time production and supply chains are at risk,”

And why is Dieter Kempf, president of the German Industry Federation, saying his:

“We have only got three months left and nobody should be playing games. Without an agreement there is no transition phase, which our companies badly need,”

Herzlos

He's not saying "lets give in", is he?

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

No they haven't. They've acknowledged from the start that Brexit will hurt everyone, but what they haven't done is prioritize the UK over the EU. Most of the German businesses are happy to take a hit on UK trade in order to maintain the EU project, because that's what's better for them.


It's a total strawman to keep claiming that anyone things the EU will be unharmed by the UK's economic suicide - it just doesn't hold up to any scrutiny.

I'll rephrase. Gfplux was saying that UK businesses were not being very vocal in describing the downside of Brexit and leaving without a deal. I was simply making the point that EU business leaders were also keeping their heads down.

But that wouldn't suit his argument.

Matt_L

Herzlos wrote: »

He's not saying "lets give in", is he?

No he's not is he.

However he's not saying he's happy to take the hit as you suggested.....

Please can we have a little more honesty for the new year...