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Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

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  • movilogo
    movilogo Posts: 3,235 Forumite
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    As it turns out, I was on the team that wrote one of those contingency plans last year for a large company here in the UK, and step one is to activate the 90 day consultation around compulsory redundancies for several hundred people.

    Please list other steps on your plan so that we can evaluate whether the company was simply trying to use Brexit as an excuse to get rid of some employees.
    Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.
  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 4,898 Forumite
    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Sky Ticker running a couple of interesting headlines out of the EU preparations for a no deal Brexit. 14 measures, including:


    Agree to let trucks cross borders until end of2019 providing UK agreement to same.
    Pet Passports held by UK citizens resident in the UK will cease to be valid as of 29th March.
    Rail Operator permit for UK cos in Europe will cease 29th March.


    Gfplux, hopefully you will see the comment about protecting the right of British citizens residing in the UK reassuring.



    More info on air transport, finance etc can be viewed here:


    http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-6851_en.htm

    The first sentence says that the EU and UK agreed the Withdrawal Agreement. When did Parliament do that?
  • movilogo wrote: »
    Please list other steps on your plan so that we can evaluate whether the company was simply trying to use Brexit as an excuse to get rid of some employees.

    This combination of naivety and arrogance annoys the living daylights out of me.

    I have no desire to see those letters go out to my friends at Christmas or any other time of year.

    The contingency plans we put in place are a result of the material hit to business that would be the result of a no deal Brexit.

    I couldn't care less how many Unicorns you were promised, or how much you think it's the democratic will of the people to have a Unicorn, they're simply not real, and therefore not deliverable.

    Brexit has consequences. Very real ones, very negative ones, that will hurt an awful lot of British people.

    Perhaps the sooner the denialists realise this the sooner we can move the debate to rational options.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • movilogo
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    If EU discovers that UK is serious about going with No Deal route, then at the last moment there will be breakthru and EU will suddenly find tweaks to TM's deal, which would then be gladly accepted by parliament and hence UK will remain in EU (while officially out).
    Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.
  • StevieJ
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    cogito wrote: »
    The first sentence says that the EU and UK agreed the Withdrawal Agreement. When did Parliament do that?


    Is Gina Miller fast becoming the new darling of the Brexiteers :)

    Gina Nadira Miller[9] (n!e Singh; 19 April 1965)[10] is a GuyaneseBritish business owner who initiated the 2016 R (Miller) v Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union court case against the British government over its authority to implement Brexit without approval from Parliament.[11]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Miller
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • movilogo
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    Brexit has consequences. Very real ones, very negative ones, that will hurt an awful lot of British people.

    That happens all the time, being in EU or out. Have you forgotten 2008-9 recession when millions of people lost jobs?
    Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.
  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 4,898 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    Is Gina Miller fast becoming the new darling of the Brexiteers :)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Miller

    Not when her only motive is to keep us in the EU cesspool.
  • Thrugelmir
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    movilogo wrote: »
    That happens all the time, being in EU or out. Have you forgotten 2008-9 recession when millions of people lost jobs?

    Fall in GDP due to a fall in intra bank trading hardly touched the real world. Fiscal policy likewise smoothed the waters. Been a while since we've experienced a real downturn across the board.
  • Lornapink
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    edited 19 December 2018 at 8:24PM

    Perhaps the sooner the denialists realise this the sooner we can move the debate to rational options.


    Project Fear bit by bit falls apart;

    The European Commission has proposed that trucks from the UK will be "temporarily allowed" to carry goods into the EU until the end of 2019 under a 'no-deal' Brexit provided that the UK offers equivalent rights to the EU


    Also a haulage firm owner called LBC explaining in detail how he has to pay taxes at each European nation border but how this is all done using tech. Amazing what can be done when people aren't ideologically possessed and suffering motivated reasoning which prevents them envisioning solutions to Brexit issues.
    Restless, somebody pour me a vino.
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