Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

Aberdeenangarse

ukcarper wrote: »

If they do succeed in reversing brexit we will most likely be in a worse position than before and that could be worse than May's deal.

The rest of the EU would never forgive us for stepping out of line. We’d be the ‘whipping boy’ forevermore.

gfplux

In the interests of full disclosure.
I have not read the withdrawal except the first page of the 584.

It seams to me that too many Brexiters think that they are not getting the Brexit they voted for. However that opinion is not based on reading the document but following blindly the lead of the Rees Mogg.

Frankly you gave a mandate to the British Government to negotiate a withdrawal agreement and the EU even went further and granted an implementation/transition period to run until end 2020.
The Government have done their best to get you out of the EU and now you get to the cliff edge you appear to be losing your nerve.
Yes the agreement does not contain the coloured Unicorns and sunny uplands you expected but this is the deal.
If you think that a no withdrawal deal is better than the negotiated one you are not being realistic.

In my opinion Brexiters should except the deal and get on with it.

gfplux

Aberdeenangarse wrote: »

The rest of the EU would never forgive us for stepping out of line. We’d be the ‘whipping boy’ forevermore.

Why. Britain has made its choice. As we have heard so often here the UK is a big market for the EU27 and will remain so for a while.

You don’t have to worry about the EU Politiciens but you should worry about EU and International management how they will view any future investment in Britain.

buglawton

Herzlos wrote: »

No, but you can be sure the Tories will try to blame Labour for it.

With Corbyn as PM I'm sure Labour would be delighted to take the blame. If the UK's going for a catastrophe it might as well be the full Monty.

gfplux

ukcarper wrote: »

I blame it on all remain supporting MPs who voted for referendum bill the vast majority of them. If they thought as the apparently do that brexit would be such a disaster they should not have put our membership at risk. That would have been easier and caused less damage than trying to reverse decision now which the majority are obviously trying to do. If they do succeed in reversing brexit we will most likely be in a worse position than before and that could be worse than May's deal.

I agree. Reversing Brexit now will still leave on the table will they or will they not leave in the future. That discussion will raise its head continually at every election for decades.
The uncertainty since June 2016 has already damaged Britain, remaining will continue that uncertainty.

By excepting the deal and leaving next March that uncertainty will disappear.

At least International companys can make their investment decisions in the U.K. with all the facts at their finger tips.

More importantly

British Companys will also know where to put their investments. (Brexiters say that will be in Britain, I am not so sure)

buglawton

scaredofdebt wrote: »

Brexit is 100% a Tory construct, designed to unite their divided party and head off the spectre of UKIP.

But yeah, blame Labour if it makes you feel better.

It's entirely up to the Labour party how it votes on the deal. Not up to the Tories the last time I checked.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

I'm not convinced; at the time public mood was for leaving, and there was a lot of noise about how easy it'd be.


I suspect that if many of them knew how badly it'd be handled and how the public mood had changed, they'd have voted differently.


They should have known better and should have held their ground, but I can just about see why they caved under the pressure.


The blame is squarely with the Leave campaigners, and the Tories that have either mismanaged themselves into a corner or held the party to ransom.





I don't follow this. What do you think would happen if we reverse Brexit that could be worse than Mays deal? Adoption of the Euro? Speaking German?
Reversing Brexit prevents us losing the sovereignty we supposedly never had, and gets us a seat back at the table.

Losing our veto joining euro

Moby

Do people like the limited edition Brexit mug currently being produced by a pottery firm in Yorkshire:-

mrginge

I still think we should have a general election

Thrugelmir

mrginge wrote: »

I still think we should have a general election

Solves nothing though. More people voted in the referendum than many past GE's since we've been members of the EU. Views aren't split on political opinion alone.