Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

ukcarper

phillw wrote: »

I have always voted conservative up until the previous election, where I voted Labour.

I don't think Labour supporters would vote conservative just because Jeremy Corbyn wanted to remain, it might kickstart ukip again.

It all depends on what happens with brexit but if it doesn't go well for leave supporters then UKIP could be a problem for both parties.

kabayiri

ukcarper wrote: »

It all depends on what happens with brexit but if it doesn't go well for leave supporters then UKIP could be a problem for both parties.

If UKIP exists and thrives in the future, then it's for a reason.

Voters will vote for something which appeals. If I feel Corbyn and his mates are too London-centric, and lack understanding of the wider country needs, then I will listen to alternatives.

kabayiri

Hmm...

"They didn't really like my vote"
https://youtu.be/fwnJFj2EVQI

Says it all really

Arklight

kabayiri wrote: »

Presumably, these are the young people who are looking towards 3 decades+ of employment then.

Tell me....how many new people will they have to compete with, if net migration runs at 3m+ per decade. Is it another 10 million in time? We are frequently told these new competitors never get sick; work harder; better educated (sound like Terminators to me).

Tell me...what does the technology landscape look like by 2050? What does the world geopolitics look like?

Has there been a pandemic in the intervening years? Has there been a major war? What about the rise of hardline religion or the matching rise in hard right politics?

It's laughable. Only a 12 year old with graph paper would attempt a linear projection of future earning.

The EU itself could easily be toast by 2050. Some saviour.

Lol, is it 2050 now? Well you've all predicted the end of the EU the day after the Brexit referendum, after the German election, the French election, the Italian election, the Catalan referendum, and been wrong, so it's good you are now providing some leeway by going forward three decades.

:rotfl:

fewgroats

I can't the EU finishing in 2050. There's a chance that the big countries might not be involved but if you are a small country there's even less impetus to leave. The next country to leave after the UK I believe won't do till at least 2030.

Herzlos

I reckon the EU will outlast the United Kingdom, easily. It will look completely different in 30 years though.

kabayiri

Arklight wrote: »

Lol, is it 2050 now? Well you've all predicted the end of the EU the day after the Brexit referendum, after the German election, the French election, the Italian election, the Catalan referendum, and been wrong, so it's good you are now providing some leeway by going forward three decades.

:rotfl:

A thousand+ years of European history is not on your side. There have been internal conflicts for a long time.

Oh, but it will all be different now, I suppose.

Well, that's just so much doggy doo doo.

This EU club tries to brush aside the friction between Hungary and the EU core, but it won't wash. Soros and globalism vs nation state.

Europe faces the biggest migration challenge in it's entire history (in terms of sheer numbers) and it made a right old pigs ear out of just 1m+ incomers. There will be at least 100 times that if African population grows as predicted.

We haven't even touched on the Euro debacle or the amount of debt or the busted fiscal compact.

Without a strong economic Germany it would be in the toilet by now.

Thrugelmir

kabayiri wrote: »

Without a strong economic Germany it would be in the toilet by now.

Germany was the sickman of Europe. Saved by a favourable exchange rate when joining the Euro. 20 years is a long time in history.

Moby

kabayiri wrote: »

Presumably, these are the young people who are looking towards 3 decades+ of employment then.

Tell me....how many new people will they have to compete with, if net migration runs at 3m+ per decade. Is it another 10 million in time? We are frequently told these new competitors never get sick; work harder; better educated (sound like Terminators to me).

Tell me...what does the technology landscape look like by 2050? What does the world geopolitics look like?

Has there been a pandemic in the intervening years? Has there been a major war? What about the rise of hardline religion or the matching rise in hard right politics?

It's laughable. Only a 12 year old with graph paper would attempt a linear projection of future earning.

The EU itself could easily be toast by 2050. Some saviour.

Research is probably more believable than an opinion based on pro Brexit bias.

Moby

kabayiri wrote: »

A thousand+ years of European history is not on your side. There have been internal conflicts for a long time.

Oh, but it will all be different now, I suppose.

Well, that's just so much doggy doo doo.

This EU club tries to brush aside the friction between Hungary and the EU core, but it won't wash. Soros and globalism vs nation state.

Europe faces the biggest migration challenge in it's entire history (in terms of sheer numbers) and it made a right old pigs ear out of just 1m+ incomers. There will be at least 100 times that if African population grows as predicted.

We haven't even touched on the Euro debacle or the amount of debt or the busted fiscal compact.

Without a strong economic Germany it would be in the toilet by now.

The very reason we need international cooperation! Retreating into nationalist silos repeats the past pattern of European history.