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Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

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  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,986 Forumite
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    cogito wrote: »
    Cannabis? Fireworks?

    Cannabis is decriminalized in a few places but I don't think it's legal. That'd be an interesting one regarding smuggling without a border. I don't know about fireworks, what's different?
  • cogito
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    Cannabis is decriminalized in a few places but I don't think it's legal. That'd be an interesting one regarding smuggling without a border. I don't know about fireworks, what's different?

    The fireworks you can buy in Germany, for example, are huge things that can only be used by pyrotechnic specialists at authorised displays in the UK. I was in Berlin last New Years Eve and it was like a war zone.

    Cannabis for private consumption is legal in Spain but merely decriminalised in Holland.
  • cogito
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    wunferall wrote: »
    You would think so, wouldn't you - but as with the remainers in here it will get ignored.

    Apparently Brexit was not enough of a warning to the EU that reform is seriously needed.
    Neither was the election result in the Netherlands.
    Or in Hungary.
    Or in Poland.
    Or in Italy.
    Or in Germany.
    Or .....

    shrug03.gif

    One of the most interesting things about the Latvian election is that the rabidly pro-EU and pro-€ party, Unity, has lost 15 of its 23 seats (there are only a hundred seats in total) and got only 6.7% of the vote compared to 22% last time. The Electoral Commission in Latvia is querying the results in two of the eight seats.
  • Moby
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    edited 8 October 2018 at 6:00AM
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/08/brexit-anxiety-for-businesses-at-highest-since-referendum
    British businesses are the most anxious they have been about Brexit since the 2016 referendum, with more bosses reining in hiring and investment plans, a study has found.

    The accountancy group Deloitte has warned that worries over the long-term impact of Brexit are mounting. This is pushing down optimism over future prospects as firms fear their trading relations with customers in the European Union could be disrupted next year.

    Deloitte’s latest survey of chief financial officers found that only 13% are more optimistic about the prospects for their company than they were three months ago. That is a sharp fall compared to July, when 24% expected conditions to brighten.

    Gloom over Brexit has risen, too; 79% of CFOs say they expect the long-term business environment to be worse as a result of leaving the EU, up from 75% in the second quarter of 2018. This is the third consecutive quarterly rise, to the highest level since the referendum.
  • buglawton
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    Thank goodness that anxiety <> business as usual.
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    FT headline

    Business fears a Corbyn government almost as much as Brexit
    https://www.ft.com/content/95f6e86c-a5fc-11e8-8ecf-a7ae1beff35b

    That's how bad Brexit is. :)
  • Thrugelmir
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    cogito wrote: »
    One of the most interesting things about the Latvian election is that the rabidly pro-EU and pro-€ party, Unity, has lost 15 of its 23 seats (there are only a hundred seats in total) and got only 6.7% of the vote compared to 22% last time. The Electoral Commission in Latvia is querying the results in two of the eight seats.

    Both Estonia and Lithunia likewise have high naturalised Russian populations. Wonder how much "influence" is being applied to change the poltical climate there too.
  • Lornapink
    Lornapink Posts: 410 Forumite
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    Rachel Shabi, James O'Brien & other prominent Remainers are dismissive of Japans open-arms approach regards entry into the TPP, claiming 'it's only words'.
    When the Japanese Gov't voiced concern over Brexit, these same Remainers claim this is reliable further evidence that Brexit is bad.

    The duality and lack of self-awareness is off the scale.

    What will Remainers say when the Irish border issue is resolved? What will be their excuse?
    Restless, somebody pour me a vino.
  • Lornapink
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    antrobus wrote: »

    That's how bad Brexit is. :)


    Why don't you fear the looming Italian crisis and impacts this could have for EU members?
    Restless, somebody pour me a vino.
  • Herzlos
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    Lornapink wrote: »
    Rachel Shabi, James O'Brien & other prominent Remainers are dismissive of Japans open-arms approach regards entry into the TPP, claiming 'it's only words'.
    When the Japanese Gov't voiced concern over Brexit, these same Remainers claim this is reliable further evidence that Brexit is bad.

    The duality and lack of self-awareness is off the scale.

    What will Remainers say when the Irish border issue is resolved? What will be their excuse?


    Can you provide some context or information here? I think you're conflating completely separate issues but I think you've accidentally hit on an interesting one.


    Japan are happy for us to join TPP presumably, but it's not been signed off yet?
    Japan are also very unhappy about us risking access to the single market, because it completely screws over the reason they chose the UK for a lot of facilities - it's proximity to the UK market. There's nothing contradictory there.


    Accidental interesting point: I wonder what'd happen if, for instance, the EU has a FTA with Japan, and we have a FTA with Japan but not with the EU. Would we need to export UK made goods via Japan or would we still be hit with Origin issues?
    Similarly, if we imported stuff from Japan directly, Origins would then mean we should ship that stuff straight to the EU if we made minimal additions? So potentially we could assembly Japanese made stuff (cars) and then ship to the EU tariff and restriction free?
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