Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

buglawton

Moby wrote: »

https://news.sky.com/story/councils-preparing-for-social-unrest-amid-brexit-uncertainty-11455918

Yes it’ll be difficult to deliver local services amid plagues of locusts and a downpour of frogs.

Tromking

ilovehouses wrote: »

Don't see the logic. If there was a second referendum remain would probably win and no concessions would be required.

Do you remainers ever learn?
Aside from the reasonably small rump of Brexiteers in our Parliament, the political class here and across the channel are fixing to give us another vote. Concessions on leave voters concerns will probably seal the deal on a remain win. I’m expecting to hear more such talk on concessions before the crunch votes in the Autumn.
Who was it who said, “they only listen, when you vote to leave”?

Herzlos

Plus this is someone talking about someone else May be talking about some unspecified concession regarding migration. It's not very concrete.

fatbeetle

Straight out on a no-deal ticket, and watch the EU back-peddle like all b#ggery on it's threats.

Zero_Gravitas

fatbeetle wrote: »

Straight out on a no-deal ticket, and watch the EU back-peddle like all b#ggery on it's threats.

Just out of interest, what are all these threats that the EU is making?

Moby

buglawton wrote: »

Yes it’ll be difficult to deliver local services amid plagues of locusts and a downpour of frogs.

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/not-drinking-bleach-is-project-fear-says-brexiter-20180731175825

buglawton

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

Just out of interest, what are all these threats that the EU is making?

Where to begin even?

At random (Barnier):
"...unless Britain came up with fresh thinking on how to avoid a hard border by the June EU council summit, further talks were in danger of collapsing"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/30/michel-barnier-brexit-talks-at-risk-unless-uk-softens-irish-border

Zero_Gravitas

buglawton wrote: »

Where to begin even?

At random (Barnier):
"...unless Britain came up with fresh thinking on how to avoid a hard border by the June EU council summit, further talks were in danger of collapsing"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/30/michel-barnier-brexit-talks-at-risk-unless-uk-softens-irish-border

Ah - starting to make sense now. So when the U.K. government makes a threat (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/06/13/uk-threatens-pull-galileo-project-eu-rejects-calls-full-access/) it’s just being firm in our negotiating position; but when the EU makes a statement of fact (as per your example above) it’s a “threat”...

All you’re doing is exposing the hypocrisy of the Brexiteers. We must presume in the absence of anything, you have no examples of the EU making threats.

ruperts

Brexiter: we're going to leave the EU!

The EU: Ok.

Brexiter: But we want to keep this benefit of membership, this one and this one.

The EU: umm, no, they're for members only, sorry.

Brexiter: ah! See!? They're making threats! Look! They're making threats! See!?

Thrugelmir

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

you have no examples of the EU making threats.

No need to make threats. As was suggested at the outset. Intransigence in Brussels would over rule any pragmatism. Barnier is not neutral in the sense of being a civil servant. His own political views are a major influence on the EU's stance.