Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

cogito

Theophile wrote: »

Pembrokeshire Council could identify one positive Brexit impact : depopulation.

Reduced demand for services if population decreases. Fewer jobs for council workers. Lower Council Tax.

Funny sort of positive.

ukcarper

ilovehouses wrote: »

Of course, it's the fault of politicians who supported remain and everyone that voted remain that we're leaving the EU.

Yes because if we didn't have referendum we wouldn't leaving and they only called referendum because they though remain would win monumental misjudgment. Secondly if they had address some of concerns before referendum there might not have been such a demand for referendum. Thirdly if they had run a better campaign remain might have won.

I was amazed when they called referendum not so much the Tories but the universal support from other parties.

fatbeetle

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Lord Mandelson must remain loyal to EU to guarantee pension
Lord Mandelson is not allowed to criticise the European Union if he wants to keep hold of his £31,000-a-year pension as a former European Commissioner, The Daily Telegraph has learned

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/4996440/Lord-Mandelson-must-remain-loyal-to-EU-to-guarantee-pension.html
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Mandy sold his soul years ago, now he's just in it for the money

ukcarper

ilovehouses wrote: »

It's far simpler than that. Yes, Cameron thought remain would win but that's not why he called a referendum - he called it because it effectively brought UKIP votes back to the Tories.

We're leaving the EU so the Tories can win the 2015 general election. Everything else is just noise.

But every other party supported referendum and if some of concerns were addressed before referendum Tories would not have been losing votes to UKIP and it wasn't just the Tories who were losing votes to UKIP.

I voted remain but as I voted I knew we would be leaving just like many people outside the bubble.

enthusiasticsaver

ilovehouses wrote: »

It's far simpler than that. Yes, Cameron thought remain would win but that's not why he called a referendum - he called it because it effectively brought UKIP votes back to the Tories.

We're leaving the EU so the Tories can win the 2015 general election. Everything else is just noise.

Exactly. Labour didn't object because they were also losing support to UKIP. I just wonder who the leave voters will blame their dissatisfaction on once we have left the EU because I am pretty sure it won't be the magic bullet people think it is.

ukcarper

ilovehouses wrote: »

There was some talk at the time about just how much support was being lost to UKIP. David Cameron, correctly, thought the Tories were losing most votes. Corbyn overestimated labour votes lost to UKIP so pandered to the idea of a referendum.

Anyway; how can you argue against a referendum - that would look undemocratic. Every despot and dictator knows this.

That's the problem if you have a referendum you have to accept the results and I mean accept the results not just play lip service., no matter how unpalatable.

kabayiri

enthusiasticsaver wrote: »

Exactly. Labour didn't object because they were also losing support to UKIP. I just wonder who the leave voters will blame their dissatisfaction on once we have left the EU because I am pretty sure it won't be the magic bullet people think it is.

What political sales job has delivered in recent years?

New Labour promised 'no more boom and bust', culminating in the biggest financial crisis in a very long time.

Tories promised 'migration in the tens of thousands', only to see it climb afterwards.

LibDems promised to deal with the student fees, and we all remember what happened when they got to share power.

Maybe Brexit was the consequences of failure coming home to roost.

Moby

https://www.inet.ox.ac.uk/news/Brexit
Look how well the UK has done since we joined the EU.

mayonnaise

Moby wrote: »

https://www.inet.ox.ac.uk/news/Brexit
Look how well the UK has done since we joined the EU.

Yeah but what about unemployment in Greece.

Tromking

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/02/improve-emergency-brake-offer-to-stop-brexit-says-french-senator

As talk of another referendum becomes louder, talk of concessions to the UK on FOM is mooted. Just like what I said!