Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

vivatifosi wrote: »

We were offered a Canada style deal, but negotiations failed due to failure to agree the location of the border.

Well, that and a load of large manufacturing businesses going to meet the PM and explain in no uncertain terms that would result in large parts of their businesses relocating to the EU...

The UK has rejected the Canada style deal we were offered because it's not good enough for us and would have a huge negative impact on UK businesses.

What we have asked for is a Canada +++ deal, (the +++ involving cherry picking parts of the single market on goods) and that is basically Chequers, which looks likely to get rejected by the EU due to containing large amounts of Cake-ism.

We still have the same choices we always had.

1. Remain.

2. EFTA/EEA

3. Canada

4. No Deal/WTO

We are still welcome to pick one and go with it....

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

Thrug, I really don't see the point you're trying to make about 'simply getting on with it'. It looks like an attempt to downplay any potential negative affects of brexit.

We are already experiencing the negative effects of being in. Following the rapid expansion of the EU in the past decade. The level of lawlessness alone is increasingly concerning for example. The focus on trade appears to be an agenda driven by those with vested interests. Plenty of business leaders see no particular issues.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

In reality as with life. People will simply get on with it. The electorate are going to be around far longer than the politicians involved. Repercussions within the EU may well see many heads fall.

You need to leave your gated property more often. :cool:

mayonnaise

ilovehouses wrote: »

Maybe you should because they were your own words quoted back at you.

There's no such thing. As a free lunch.
We are heading for uncharted waters.
One navigates and steers around ice bergs.
Cash is king.

Tromking

ilovehouses wrote: »

Is this something you fear or is it what you truly believe?

I hope you're right but I think the threat of a second referendum (which remain look to be favourites to win) is just a tool being used to bring the brexiteers into line.

They're being offered the choice of pulling their necks in or finding out if the 'will of the people' has changed.

I don’t fear this scenario, I’d just rather it didn’t play out that way. I’m grown up enough to admit that the referendum result needed to
have been backed up by a decisive victory for the Tories in the GE17.
No deal doesn’t get past our Parliament and ‘Chequers’ probably doesn’t either. I predict a constitutional crisis in the autumn and another bout of democracy to try and break the inevitable logjam.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

Maybe you should because they were your own words quoted back at you.

Quoted out of context perhaps.......

Arklight

I have just returned from a driving holiday in Europe. It was lovely driving around the clean, orderly, towns, cities and villages of affordable houses populated by affluent, educated and level headed people. People who are used to functioning healthcare systems, public transport that isn't designed to be a choking mess that only benefits private shareholders, and Education that is treated as something that benefits everyone, not as an opportunity to enact some bizarre ideological war against young people.

Of course it was great returning home to England too, the bone jarring potholes from the crumbling litter strewn roads, the right wing press spewing hatred from every orifice, the constant fear of being out of work and how to service my enormous mortgage for my jaw droppingly over priced house. At least I have the results of my health check to look forward to, except the NHS can't find the results.

Graham_Devon

Arklight wrote: »

I have just returned from a driving holiday in Europe. It was lovely driving around the clean, orderly, towns, cities and villages of affordable houses populated by affluent, educated and level headed people. People who are used to functioning healthcare systems, public transport that isn't designed to be a choking mess that only benefits private shareholders, and Education that is treated as something that benefits everyone, not as an opportunity to enact some bizarre ideological war against young people.

Of course it was great returning home to England too, the bone jarring potholes from the crumbling litter strewn roads, the right wing press spewing hatred from every orifice, the constant fear of being out of work and how to service my enormous mortgage for my jaw droppingly over priced house. At least I have the results of my health check to look forward to, except the NHS can't find the results.

Welcome home!

kabayiri

Arklight wrote: »

I have just returned from a driving holiday in Europe. It was lovely driving around the clean, orderly, towns, cities and villages of affordable houses populated by affluent, educated and level headed people. People who are used to functioning healthcare systems, public transport that isn't designed to be a choking mess that only benefits private shareholders, and Education that is treated as something that benefits everyone, not as an opportunity to enact some bizarre ideological war against young people.
...

You've still got FOM.

If 1m+ Poles can find a better home in pot holes ville, surely you can find one over there.

Arklight

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Welcome home!

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