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Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

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  • discat11
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    Jolly good and just as 'valuable' as you say.

    'Jobs have been gained as a result of brexit' provides link-'Prove otherwise'.

    Since the link and article prove diddly squat there clearly is no need to 'prove otherwise'.
  • buglawton
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    Yup, anyone can post am opinion here, like post #1946, no need to provide any proof. But at least I did post a nice shiny chart with my opinion.
  • gfplux
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    buglawton wrote: »
    That Unilever is staying in the UK is one thing, interesting though is the reason behind it: Shareholders want it to stay listed on the one stock market they prefer and where regulations mean that pension funds etc must keep invested. This will be a wake up call to similar corporates.

    Or....... there is less protection from a takeover bid in London that shareholders would welcome.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • buglawton
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    You may be right. LSE shares are highly tradeable, on a lesser stock exchange not so much. It's a value judgement really. Takeovers happen when opportunities are not being take by the current leadership of a company. Let's see what happens with GKN.
  • fatbeetle
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    I see Mr Junker, the unellected leader of the EUSSR, is trying to curtail press freedom in the UK...
    Jean-Claude Juncker has insisted that there must be limits to the freedom of the press as he accused British media of trampling over the human rights of politicians.

    In an outspoken interview at a crunch point in the Brexit negotiations, the European commission president also lamented that the former prime minister, David Cameron, had blocked him from campaigning during the 2016 referendum.

    “If the commission intervened, perhaps the right questions would have entered the debate,” Juncker told a group of Austrian newspapers. “Now you discover new problems almost daily, on both sides. At that time, it was already clear to us what trials and tribulations this pitiful vote of the British would lead to. I am always amazed about what I am always blamed for.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/06/juncker-criticises-british-media-and-urges-limits-to-press-freedom

    Nice bit of UK bashing thrown in there too; "You should have listened to us, we would have told you how to vote!" Honets to gawd...
    “If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and who weren't so lazy.”
  • fatbeetle wrote: »
    I see Mr Junker, the unellected leader of the EUSSR, is trying to curtail press freedom in the UK...



    Nice bit of UK bashing thrown in there too; "You should have listened to us, we would have told you how to vote!" Honets to gawd...
    This is the same JC Junker that "stretched and possibly even overstretched the limits of the law" to promote Martin Selmayer (nickname: "The Monster") to the position of Secretary-General of the European Commission.
    Despite the European Ombudsman's findings he (Selmayer) has remained in place since March, but the EU-lovers here do insist upon telling us that the way EU positions are given is democratic!
  • Moby
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    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/01/paris-set-to-triumph-as-europes-post-brexit-trading-hub.html

    Paris is emerging as the favored financial trading hub for continental Europe, as some of the world's biggest banks and asset managers prepare for life after Brexit by steering their EU operations away from London to the French capital.

    BlackRock and JPMorgan Chase are poised to join Bank of America and Citigroup in the vanguard, according to people familiar with their thinking.
  • Herzlos
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    buglawton wrote: »
    Jobs have been gained as a result of Brexit.
    http://uk.businessinsider.com/ons-uk-employment-data-from-july-2018-2018-7

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    Prove otherwise.

    The article doesn't mention brexit and the growth started 3 years before the vote so apologies if I'm not convinced. The graph largely shows vacancies drop off a cliff as the 2008 recession bit and a recovery starting 2013 and no real change about 2016.

    Then there's the vacancies vs jobs thing. Are there more vacancies because jobs have been created or because the migrants doing them have left?

    The only jobs I'm aware of being created due to Brexit are 200 new customs agents, department for leaving EU and the minister of supply. Can anyone point me to new jobs that aren't just about managing brexit?

    I can point to many that have been lost or cancelled explicitly due to Brexit.
  • buglawton
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    The article doesn't mention brexit and the growth started 3 years before the vote so apologies if I'm not convinced. The graph largely shows vacancies drop off a cliff as the 2008 recession bit and a recovery starting 2013 and no real change about 2016.

    Then there's the vacancies vs jobs thing. Are there more vacancies because jobs have been created or because the migrants doing them have left?

    The only jobs I'm aware of being created due to Brexit are 200 new customs agents, department for leaving EU and the minister of supply. Can anyone point me to new jobs that aren't just about managing brexit?

    I can point to many that have been lost or cancelled explicitly due to Brexit.
    Oh dear you missed the point completely. That post was to balance the endless Remainer posts claiming/insinuating that jobs are being lost due to Brexit - without of course providing any facts to back it up. So I make the point: Anyone can attribute anything to Brexit. It's not over till the fat lady sings.

    All we really know at the moment is: Brexit announced, pound down, jobs up.
  • buglawton
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    Moby wrote: »
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/01/paris-set-to-triumph-as-europes-post-brexit-trading-hub.html

    Paris is emerging as the favored financial trading hub for continental Europe, as some of the world's biggest banks and asset managers prepare for life after Brexit by steering their EU operations away from London to the French capital.

    BlackRock and JPMorgan Chase are poised to join Bank of America and Citigroup in the vanguard, according to people familiar with their thinking.
    Mulls...
    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-jpmorgan/jpmorgan-mulls-moving-200-bankers-to-paris-post-brexit-les-echos-idUSKBN1HP35Z
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