Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

buglawton

That Unilever is staying in the UK is one thing, interesting though is the reason behind it: Shareholders want it to stay listed on the one stock market they prefer and where regulations mean that pension funds etc must keep invested. This will be a wake up call to similar corporates.

Joan_number_1_2

Moby wrote: »

Purist brexiteer hopes are going to be dashed and replaced with a fudge that no one will be happy with but most can live with. The financial costs for us have yet to be seen but now it's about harm minimisation and making the best of a bad situation. The important decisions are going to be kicked into the long grass it seems and revisited when the politics changes and the populist nativists amongst us have run out of steam.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/05/eu-may-offer-post-brexit-trade-flexibility-to-help-may-secure-deal

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/05/may-secretly-woos-key-labour-mps-to-back-her-brexit-deal

You're reliant upon the misplaced pontifications of the Grauniad for your doom-laden predictions now?
:rotfl:
If you read your links you know that actually what you should have written was:
"Purist Brexiteer hopes stand a small possibility of being dashed and replaced with a fudge that no one will be happy with but most can live with. The financial costs or benefits for us have yet to be seen but now it's about looking forward and making the best of what might prove to be a promising situation. The important decisions are going to be visited in these next few weeks it seems and if necessary revisited when the dissenter politics changes and the EU-loving nativists amongst us have run out of steam."
There, that's much more accurate.

Tromking

gfplux wrote: »

Yes back we come to asking Brexiters what benefits will there be from Brexit.
Phrases like taking back control do not put bread on the table.

Speaking personally the UK’s ability to discriminate (lawfully) against EU workers who are currently able to access in work benefits will improve things. The non-contributory nature of our welfare system has been a huge draw for unskilled EU migration and its needs sorting.

Joan_number_1_2

gfplux wrote: »

With record numbers in employment and record low unemployment You are suggesting Britain is doing well in the EU.

I would; after all, it is (fairly) but if you want the EU to take credit for that, what about poor Greece? Italy even, or France whose economy is grinding to a halt. Will you accept that the EU is responsible?

gfplux wrote: »

When Britain is outside the EU will the above statement by you remain true.

It wasn't by me however nobody has a crystal ball but why shouldn't it? At least we alone as a country will be responsible and not an interfering would-be but failing superpower.

gfplux wrote: »

How will Brexit benefit all those in employment.

Brexit threads here are full of examples. Haven't you been reading them?

gfplux wrote: »

Yes back we come to asking Brexiters what benefits will there be from Brexit.
Phrases like taking back control do not put bread on the table.

By the same token neither do they take bread off the table.
Personally, if team remain are so confident that remaining in the EU why do they feel it so necessary to introduce threats at every turn? "Jobs lost" and "emergency budget" are just two examples from frankly loads that how proven to be very wrong, so you shouldn't be surprised that leavers are cynical at remainers continued threats of Armageddon.

The school bully has been standing over us and threatening to take our lunch money for long enough without actually being able to take it that we aren't even listening any more.

Herzlos

So no jobs have been lost due to Brexit? That's a relief.

buglawton

Jobs have been gained as a result of Brexit.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/ons-uk-employment-data-from-july-2018-2018-7



Prove otherwise.

discat11

Could you point out where in the article it claims these vacancies are 'as a result of brexit'? or is that an opinion you've made?

I read the article linked and couldn't see:
The actual numbers in job vacancies between June 16 and now, whether these are full time or part time jobs, whether they are zero hours or salaried jobs and what salary bands/skill bands are affected, all of which are surely absolutely vital to make any claim.

It has to be said also that these are vacancies -not necessarily jobs being taken up, although thats a moot point, probably and they've been on the rise since 2013 according to the same graph and article.

buglawton

I've used exactly the same proof as post #1946 where I get that feeling that Herzlos is trying to discredit the idea that no jobs are being lost due to Brexit. Waiting for Herz's comeback...

Since you agree with post 1946 maybe you can do the honours though?

discat11

OK.
Post 1946 has no link to it.
It actually doesn't even say anything other than he feels it's a relief there were no jobs lost because of brexit.
I don't want to see jobs lost either, hence my like.

Now, if your link is credible where is it relevant -back to you, or we can all see that it was your opinion with a vague 'rise in vacancies' chart as your evidence.

I'll remind you that the question is:

Could you point out where in the article it claims these vacancies are 'as a result of brexit'? or is that an opinion you've made?

buglawton

It's an opinion just like Herzlos' in his valuable post #1946.

No link it it because it was a reply to the one directly below it -
Personally, if team remain are so confident that remaining in the EU why do they feel it so necessary to introduce threats at every turn? "Jobs lost" and "emergency budget" are just two examples from frankly loads that