Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

Thrugelmir

Filo25 wrote: »

I would say politics is in a pretty sad state as we are now at the stage where people listen to the likes of Rees Mogg, Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage

Who is Gina Miller. Money appears to buy influence and "celebrity" status these days. US style politics sadly.

wunferall

Arklight wrote: »

Workshy Brexiters will never get a good result from Brexit, because there are few rewards for the idle.

That very convincingly shows just how out of touch some EUrophiles are with opinions like that.
With record numbers in employment and (surprise!) record low unemployment where exactly are these masses of workshy Brexit idlers?

Herzlos

Lornapink wrote: »

Japan is wealthier than the UK. How have they managed with barely any immigration? Ok they have their issues but they have muddled through and remain wealthy with tiny immigration. Perhaps they can have a little more immigration.


What happens when in 10 yrs time we find there still aren't enough houses thanks to mass immigration?


You will say, build even more.


What is you end vision from all this relentless building?

Japan is a ticking time bomb of an aged population and desperately needs more immigration to prevent disaster. It's a pretty good example of where we might be without immigration. Pensioner crime waves because they get cared for in prison, the elderly wandering off I to the woods to die, massive difficulties funding and staffing care work. Robots will take over some of it though.

Herzlos

wunferall wrote: »

That very convincingly shows just how out of touch some EUrophiles are with opinions like that.
With record numbers in employment and (surprise!) record low unemployment where exactly are these masses of workshy Brexit idlers?

The only employment groups with a majority vote for brexit we're the retired and the unemployed.
There will be a lot more when the last of the factories close too.

wunferall

Herzlos wrote: »

The only employment groups with a majority vote for brexit we're the retired and the unemployed.
There will be a lot more when the last of the factories close too.

You fell for the media's implications of who voted for what then?
It's the biggest load of rubbish ever TBH.
Votes are not classified in any other way than by the "X" on the ballot paper as you well know.
Never mind though if it suits your biased agenda.

wunferall

Oh & BTW Herzlos, if 18% of the population are over 65 and 4% are unemployed maybe you can explain how that equals 52% ?

wunferall

Not a good week for remainers (again) as Brexit day draws ever nearer.

Just from today:
* The EUrophiles can crow no longer about Unilever moving to the Netherlands because they are staying in the UK.
* Productivity rises at the fastest pace in 2 years.
* In central London they shrug off Brexit and increase the uptake of new office space by 6% in the 3rd quarter.
* Swiss private bank Julius Bayer "is benefiting from steady growth of wealth creation in Britain and its bet that Brexit is not a long-term threat to its business".
* Concerned by no-deal stories no doubt, EU Brexit negotiators say " a divorce deal with Britain is very close".


While the world continues to spin on it's axis and life here in the UK goes on much as normal, the EUrophiles here continue in their misplaced adoration for their beloved-but-soon-to-be-disnissed EU.
In their adoration for Donald Tusk for example, a similar EUrophile who (as has been said) administered such a corrupt regime in his native Poland and then once in power in the EU turned on Poland that they hate him and didn't want him re-elected as council president!

With such feelings increasing across EU countries, Bavaria's election soon is expected to show Merkel's allies the CSU getting a drubbing - for the first time since 1946!

By comparison the UK is a sea of tranquility.

Herzlos

I don't think you'll find anyone here that adores the EU, or is sitting moaning about Brexit instead of getting on with their lives.
Those are all good news points. Enough to counter all the bad points and uncertainty? I hope so.

wunferall wrote: »

Oh & BTW Herzlos, if 18% of the population are over 65 and 4% are unemployed maybe you can explain how that equals 52% ?

Majority vote, not entire vote. Based on polling from the big day onwards and not media inference.

Moby

Purist brexiteer hopes are going to be dashed and replaced with a fudge that no one will be happy with but most can live with. The financial costs for us have yet to be seen but now it's about harm minimisation and making the best of a bad situation. The important decisions are going to be kicked into the long grass it seems and revisited when the politics changes and the populist nativists amongst us have run out of steam.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/05/eu-may-offer-post-brexit-trade-flexibility-to-help-may-secure-deal

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/05/may-secretly-woos-key-labour-mps-to-back-her-brexit-deal

gfplux

wunferall wrote: »

That very convincingly shows just how out of touch some EUrophiles are with opinions like that.
With record numbers in employment and (surprise!) record low unemployment where exactly are these masses of workshy Brexit idlers?

With record numbers in employment and record low unemployment You are suggesting Britain is doing well in the EU.

When Britain is outside the EU will the above statement by you remain true.

How will Brexit benefit all those in employment.

Yes back we come to asking Brexiters what benefits will there be from Brexit.
Phrases like taking back control do not put bread on the table.