Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

gfplux

Moby wrote: »

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/102488/car-manufacturing-down-129-as-uk-demand-dives

Third consecutive month of declining car manufacturing figures reveal 38.8 per cent fewer UK-built cars going to UK homes
The number of cars built in the UK fell by 12.9 per cent in August compared to the same month in 2017, with 13,184 fewer vehicles produced.

A total of 89,254 cars were made in the UK last month, down from 102,438 in August 2018. The decline was driven by a 38.8 per cent drop in the number of cars made for the UK domestic market. Fewer than 10,323 cars produced in the UK in August 2018 went to local buyers. The number of cars built for export fell by 2,861, which represents a 3.8 per cent decline.

There surely will come a time when overseas private buyers will begin to stop buying UK produced cars as the delivery date will become a problem.
I imagine this is an even greater problem for corporate and rental company buyers.

Lornapink

gfplux wrote: »

There surely will come a time when overseas private buyers will begin to stop buying UK produced cars as the delivery date will become a problem.
I imagine this is an even greater problem for corporate and rental company buyers.

From the same article;
Hawes added, however, that August 2018’s result was exaggerated by the introduction of the new WLTP emission-measurement system standards, which saw the industry “racing” to get cars recertified.
While overall vehicle manufacturing was down, engine production in the UK reached record high levels with 2.72 million produced, up 6.9 per cent on 2016

Lornapink

Tarambor wrote: »

If Brexit doesn't happen I for one will never vote in any election or referendum again because yet again those in power and those in London will have demonstrated they'll just do what they want regardless of any outcome of any electoral or referendum process so what is the point? I'm not alone in this view too.

Blarite globalist ruling classes, post-democracy Davos elites hope the masses stop voting for popular agenda's, what they deem to be populist agenda's.

When globalists imply there's no point voting as nothing will ever change with themselves in charge, e.g. they say there's no escape from the EU, ever, then revolution is the only option left. The vote to Leave was just that, revolutionary, daring to defy the greedy status-quo, permanent political class.

Don't play into hands of the party of Davos, instead take a look at what people's movements are doing from the bottom-up across Europe. Instead of them giving in to globalists that rig the game, they're fighting back and voting in common sense populists.

Lets not allow purported experts to claim their qualifications imply they are born to rule over us.
In places like Austria the people have declared they've had enough of consensus politics.

Don't ever give in to the permanent political class, the deep State, the technocrats, the Clintons, the Obamas, the Blairites.

Lornapink

Herzlos wrote: »

How do you feel about Gina Miller's legal action that resulted in parliament getting a vote about the Brexit deal? Patriot or Traitor?

Her end game, as now revealed, is to ensure we Remain largely governed by a foreign power. The very last thing on her agenda is permanent, meaningful sovereignty.

She's utterly see-through, as exampled by her silence as ever more UK Gov't competencies were handed to Brussels.

When did the people give their consent via referendum for powers being handed over via Maastricht and Lisbon?
We voted to join a Common Market, nowhere were we expressly asked permission to hand over the sorts of powers Maastricht and Lisbon gifted to Brussels.

cogito

Lornapink wrote: »

From the same article;
Hawes added, however, that August 2018’s result was exaggerated by the introduction of the new WLTP emission-measurement system standards, which saw the industry “racing” to get cars recertified.
While overall vehicle manufacturing was down, engine production in the UK reached record high levels with 2.72 million produced, up 6.9 per cent on 2016

In other words, it's new EU regulations which are the cause of the problem right?

Moby

Lornapink wrote: »

From the same article;
Hawes added, however, that August 2018’s result was exaggerated by the introduction of the new WLTP emission-measurement system standards, which saw the industry “racing” to get cars recertified.
While overall vehicle manufacturing was down, engine production in the UK reached record high levels with 2.72 million produced, up 6.9 per cent on 2016

https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2018/oct/04/uk-car-sales-tumble-brexit-emissions-tests-stock-markets-dollar-italy-business-live
There you go..latest figures. I'm sure there's some excuse though!

Moby

Lornapink wrote: »

Blarite globalist ruling classes, post-democracy Davos elites hope the masses stop voting for popular agenda's, what they deem to be populist agenda's.

When globalists imply there's no point voting as nothing will ever change with themselves in charge, e.g. they say there's no escape from the EU, ever, then revolution is the only option left. The vote to Leave was just that, revolutionary, daring to defy the greedy status-quo, permanent political class.

Don't play into hands of the party of Davos, instead take a look at what people's movements are doing from the bottom-up across Europe. Instead of them giving in to globalists that rig the game, they're fighting back and voting in common sense populists.

Lets not allow purported experts to claim their qualifications imply they are born to rule over us.
In places like Austria the people have declared they've had enough of consensus politics.

Don't ever give in to the permanent political class, the deep State, the technocrats, the Clintons, the Obamas, the Blairites.

Are you David Icke's mini me per chance?

Herzlos

Lornapink wrote: »

Her end game, as now revealed, is to ensure we Remain largely governed by a foreign power. The very last thing on her agenda is permanent, meaningful sovereignty.

Yet she's the one who got you your much desired parliamentary sovereignty, and we're not governed by a foreign power (like you could argue the Scots are, since they can't materially change any regulations that come out of Westminster). We were leading a group of countries with some shared rules, which we helped make and generally agreed with.

Herzlos

qwert_yuiop wrote: »

Since brexit seems to be pretty much impossible, how difficult would splitting Scotland from the rest of us be?


Breaking up is hard to do, it seems.

Without the GFA holding us back it'd be a lot easier.

Sapphire

Moby wrote: »

when sovereignty is mentioned to you re. Scottish independence you immediately bring up the economic arguments against it. A bit rich!

Er, no. I did not bring up any 'economic arguments against it'. I said: 'Up to them to decide, if they feel it will be the best thing for them financially and in terms of being a sovereign country.'

There is no argument there, simply a statement of fact. I'm not even sure why the poster diverted the thread to Scotland, since the SNP and Scotland are a separate issue from the one being discussed.

Back on topic, as I said before, I am even more against us being part of the EU organisation than I ever was, particularly now I know what it entails and how the unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats behave towards a sovereign nation that legitimately has decided to leave. It was a very unpleasant surprise to me, which I fear has tainted my view of continental Europe and made me look to places outside Europe altogether for both leisure and work. I'd always been under the impression that Britain was in a trade organisation, not in any kind of political one. I truly don't know how it was legally possible for the actual aims of the EU to be hidden from the British people, and for them not to have been given a vote on such a key issue of sovereignty before the signing of any 'treaties'.