Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

Here's a blog covering the "why facts don't work" argument, from yesterday: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/the-brexit-identity-why-facts-wont-win-the-remain_uk_5a6f91b8e4b068bb3d91dc93

The article which is all about facts states that WW2 ended in 1954 before a 70 year old was born. Is that a fact?

cogito

Moby wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/02/eu-anger-over-mays-post-brexit-immigration-plan


Doesn't bode well for a deal in October

Looks like the EU cherry picking again.

Joan_number_1_2

Moby wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/02/eu-anger-over-mays-post-brexit-immigration-plan


Doesn't bode well for a deal in October

Yay.

Exactly so Cogito, not that some posters here would ever acknowledge that.

Moby

cogito wrote: »

Looks like the EU cherry picking again.

....or alternatively the UK thinks it's so special it deserves a deal that breaches the rules of the organisation it has chosen to leave, while putting the GFA at risk....also while doing so the departing Govmt insults that organisation by likening it to the Soviet Union.... Is this one of Boris's bridges?

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

The article which is all about facts states that WW2 ended in 1954 before a 70 year old was born. Is that a fact?

The article said rationing ended in 1954? And that a 70 year old won't remember it?

Lungboy

cogito wrote: »

The article which is all about facts states that WW2 ended in 1954 before a 70 year old was born. Is that a fact?

What? No it doesn't, it says that rationing ended in 1954.

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

Looks like the EU cherry picking again.

What cherry is being picked? It looks to me like the EU is saying in or out. Full free movement or no free movement. Sounds like the opposite of cherry picking.

buglawton

Moby wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/02/eu-anger-over-mays-post-brexit-immigration-plan

Doesn't bode well for a deal in October

Tend to agree about the cherry picking.
Example: Poland has 1 to 2 million Ukrainian workers. To backfill the approx 1 million Poles that came to the UK.

Point being that when the UK regains immigration control, it'll be a points based system very unlike the open-sesame that Poland a part of the EU has been allowed to have for low paid workers from the former USSR.

EU looks away from the real world Polish scenario, while protesting loudly when the UK so much as announces it's post-Brexit migration policy direction that's actually stricter.
Mind your own business, EU leadership!

Herzlos

Tory business minister also thinks no deal brexit wouldn't be great for UK
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/no-deal-brexit-uk-economy-conservative-conference-business-minister-claire-perry-a8564611.html

cogito

Moby wrote: »

....or alternatively the UK thinks it's so special it deserves a deal that breaches the rules of the organisation it has chosen to leave, while putting the GFA at risk....also while doing so the departing Govmt insults that organisation by likening it to the Soviet Union.... Is this one of Boris's bridges?

No more special than any other country that wishes to decide who can enter. Why would the EU want to insist on that country granting free movement when it's no longer a member?

And I think the first person to compare the EU to the former USSR was Boris Gorbachev.