Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

Moby

ukcarper wrote: »

I was referring to Brexit polls as for GE that would achieve nothing.

I was very surprised how many MPs voted for referendum bill but unlike them I wasn't surprised when leave won, I think they and many remainers are still in their bubble and don't realise the support for leave in country, nobody that I know who voted leave has changed their mind in fact they are more intrenched.

Apologies....re. brexit...the BBC, (Curtice) analysis Antrobus posts above tells us its close. I've seen some other polling evidence that the 'peoples vote on the 'plan' has growing support. I think Labours best position is to sit tight, let it play out and see what happens. May will attract support if she is seen to be humiliated by the foreigners....perhaps that's her intention.
I hoped people would see beyond that rather base emotional response to humiliation....but the types that voted brexit did it on emotion rather than what is 'common sense'. The more we are humiliated by the French and Germans the more they will want a hard brexit. I've never seen this country so divided and I really think the union is at risk!

ukcarper

Moby wrote: »

Apologies....re. brexit...the BBC, (Curtice) analysis Antrobus posts above tells us its close. I've seen some other polling evidence that the 'peoples vote on the 'plan' has growing support. I think Labours best position is to sit tight, let it play out and see what happens. May will attract support if she is seen to be humiliated by the foreigners....perhaps that's her intention.
I hoped people would see beyond that rather base emotional response to humiliation....but the types that voted brexit did it on emotion rather than what is 'common sense'. The more we are humiliated by the French and Germans the more they will want a hard brexit. I've never seen this country so divided and I really think the union is at risk!

Problem for Labour is Tory's are ahead in polls even with what's going on and although Corbyn is popular with Labour members he is unpopular with many Labour voters.

antrobus

Moby wrote: »

....I think Labours best position is to sit tight, let it play out and see what happens....!

Standard operating procedure for every opposition since time began.:)

Thrugelmir

The Union is at risk Brexit or no Brexit. Though Sturgeon like Salmond, Seems stuck in no mans land. For the simple fact that the numbers don't add up.

What sort of Border will there be between Scotand and England in the future. Cannot even agree on one in Ireland.......

Words are cheap. Agreeing on things is a lot lot harder. Probably sums up why Europe was at war for over 2 centuries.

wunferall

mayonnaise wrote: »

I told them their conduct was unacceptable, that they need to be more flexible and they need to come up with new proposals to solve the situation.
Still waiting for an answer...

But meantime how much are you still paying them?

wunferall

I'm forming the opinion that Theresa May is playing an absolute blinder as far as Brexit is concerned.

Look as if you're doing all the conceding yet be pretty sure that the EU will still say "non" so that in the eyes of the British public the EU are seen to be domineering to the point of bullying.
Well, the EU saying that May is "uncompromising" isn't going to reverse that possibility.

No-deal Brexit here we go!
:T

Herzlos

I'm starting to agree, because she just can't be that incompetent.
But I don't think the blinder will be a no-deal - it'd cost her husband a fortune. I think the blinder will be claiming her hands are tied into total capitulation and remaining in the EU whilst passing full blame back to the EU.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

What sort of Border will there be between Scotand and England in the future. Cannot even agree on one in Ireland.......

That'll be a lot easier to negotiate than the Eire/NI border since there's no good Friday equivalent.
It'd likely be the same border as elsewhere between England and the EU, as that's where Scotland would be heading.

Thrugelmir

wunferall wrote: »

I'm forming the opinion that Theresa May is playing an absolute blinder as far as Brexit is concerned.

EU Parliamentry elections next May. Getting under the skin of the won't have gone down well. Given the mood in much of Europe.

Iain_For

Filo25

wunferall wrote: »

I'm forming the opinion that Theresa May is playing an absolute blinder as far as Brexit is concerned.

Look as if you're doing all the conceding yet be pretty sure that the EU will still say "non" so that in the eyes of the British public the EU are seen to be domineering to the point of bullying.
Well, the EU saying that May is "uncompromising" isn't going to reverse that possibility.

No-deal Brexit here we go!
:T

No deal Brexit will be an economic shambles though, so it all sounds great getting by on bravado until then, but blaming others starts to become a lot less effective when you are in charge and the economy heads down the toilet