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  • Chrysalis
    Chrysalis Posts: 4,701 Forumite
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    Rumrat everyone has a right to their own opinion.

    For me the issues with the win10 menu are.

    1 - If I open it and try to mouse scroll through items it doesnt work, I have first have to click on the right part of the menu so mouse scrolling works, poor useability which I am baffled has not been found in QA testing.
    2 - No Item pinning
    3 - Regressed commonly used apps.
    4 - No easy access to admin tools
    5 - Need to right click to access control panel, run.
    6 - More wasted space as menu is more spaced not so compact, so much more scrolling required.
    7 - Cannot move start menu items around.
    8 - Cannot access startup folder.
    9 - No direct points of entry to specific bookmark folders such as pictures, documents, and downloads.
    10 - No inclusive search box for start menu apps, have to use the search icon for cortana which is a terrible search function in comparison.

    Its not terrible, its better than no menu at all in win8. But its for sure not as good as the older start menu for me. In short its less productive and less intuitive.
  • dealer_wins
    dealer_wins Posts: 7,334 Forumite
    RumRat wrote: »
    No it's not...........................Please give details.

    Post above sums it up much better than I could. :T:T
  • Chrysalis
    Chrysalis Posts: 4,701 Forumite
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    Dear Microsoft, when did it fall apart in your UI department?

    This is much more productive.

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  • DoaM
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    esuhl wrote: »
    Lander! Was that the simple flight-sim demo on the Acorn Archimedes?!

    To me Lander means Lunar Lander ...

    http://moonlander.seb.ly/

    :)
  • wongataa
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    Chrysalis wrote: »
    Rumrat everyone has a right to their own opinion.

    For me the issues with the win10 menu are.

    1 - If I open it and try to mouse scroll through items it doesnt work, I have first have to click on the right part of the menu so mouse scrolling works, poor useability which I am baffled has not been found in QA testing.
    This works for me. Something is wrong with your system then.
    Chrysalis wrote: »
    2 - No Item pinning
    If you can't pin anything to the pinning area on the right of the start menu then something is wrong with your system. You can't pin to the top any more. Is the pinning are to the right not suitable?
    Chrysalis wrote: »
    3 - Regressed commonly used apps.
    Not sure what this means. Can you explain?
    Chrysalis wrote: »
    4 - No easy access to admin tools
    No link I agree. Does the search function not bring them up easily?
    Chrysalis wrote: »
    5 - Need to right click to access control panel, run.
    Click on start icon and then click on control panel link or right click start icon and click on control panel link. It is the same number of steps. Different method but no longer or harder.
    Chrysalis wrote: »
    6 - More wasted space as menu is more spaced not so compact, so much more scrolling required.
    Yes, but that is a non issue for me. I don't tend to scroll through the start menu often.
    Chrysalis wrote: »
    7 - Cannot move start menu items around.
    Do many people do this? Alphabetical sorting is my preferred way.
    Chrysalis wrote: »
    8 - Cannot access startup folder.
    Yes, this annoying if you want to and can't remember where it is now.
    Chrysalis wrote: »
    9 - No direct points of entry to specific bookmark folders such as pictures, documents, and downloads.
    I don't use this functionality so it does matter to me.
    Chrysalis wrote: »
    10 - No inclusive search box for start menu apps, have to use the search icon for cortana which is a terrible search function in comparison.
    This cortana search box works the way the search box on the Win7 start menu works, just with the added cortana functionality. Press the windows key on the keyboard, start typing program name, program appears in search results, select it. I see no difference between Win7 and Win10. I use both systems btw.
  • RumRat
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    Chrysalis wrote: »
    Rumrat everyone has a right to their own opinion.

    For me the issues with the win10 menu are.

    1 - If I open it and try to mouse scroll through items it doesnt work, I have first have to click on the right part of the menu so mouse scrolling works, poor useability which I am baffled has not been found in QA testing.
    2 - No Item pinning
    3 - Regressed commonly used apps.
    4 - No easy access to admin tools
    5 - Need to right click to access control panel, run.
    6 - More wasted space as menu is more spaced not so compact, so much more scrolling required.
    7 - Cannot move start menu items around.
    8 - Cannot access startup folder.
    9 - No direct points of entry to specific bookmark folders such as pictures, documents, and downloads.
    10 - No inclusive search box for start menu apps, have to use the search icon for cortana which is a terrible search function in comparison.

    Its not terrible, its better than no menu at all in win8. But its for sure not as good as the older start menu for me. In short its less productive and less intuitive.

    I think you missed the ironic nature of my post.......Just posting it's 'absolutely terrible'. with nothing else, is meaningless, hence my short reply.
    I agree each to their own and I find the W10 menu far better, but, it is just my opinion.
    I just start typing what I want and it's there, far better for me than messing about in menus and I find that more intuitive....
    I'm not knocking anyone who wishes to use one of the substitute menus, but, it's nothing new or rebellious. They were all available in W7...;)
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  • unforeseen
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    50Twuncle wrote: »
    MS have finally done it
    "Classic Shell" is incompatible with Win 10's latest update and the developers say "no more updates will be produced..."
    The latest update found irs way on to my PC without even asking and killed what little faith I still had in MS
    Classic Shell was the only way that I could cope with Win 10's useless menu so what next ?
    Back to Win 7 - I think......
    I've got 3 machines fully up to date.
    Last update being KB4089848 which brings the OS Build to 16299.334
    Classic Shell V4.3.1

    And everything is running fine. Never had to re-install it as it always sorted itself out on first run after update

    I suppose its wait and see if it actually does stop working
  • RumRat
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    Post above sums it up much better than I could. :T:T

    Judging by your previous post, you are probably correct....:)
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  • dogmaryxx
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    Chrysalis wrote: »
    Rumrat everyone has a right to their own opinion.

    For me the issues with the win10 menu are.

    1 - If I open it and try to mouse scroll through items it doesnt work, I have first have to click on the right part of the menu so mouse scrolling works, poor useability which I am baffled has not been found in QA testing.
    2 - No Item pinning
    3 - Regressed commonly used apps.
    4 - No easy access to admin tools
    5 - Need to right click to access control panel, run.
    6 - More wasted space as menu is more spaced not so compact, so much more scrolling required.
    7 - Cannot move start menu items around.
    8 - Cannot access startup folder.
    9 - No direct points of entry to specific bookmark folders such as pictures, documents, and downloads.
    10 - No inclusive search box for start menu apps, have to use the search icon for cortana which is a terrible search function in comparison.

    Its not terrible, its better than no menu at all in win8. But its for sure not as good as the older start menu for me. In short its less productive and less intuitive.


    Just pin anything you need(control panel.start up folder.downloads.music.etc etc) to the start/taskbar for quick access,It's very user friendly I find.
  • [Deleted User]
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    Chrysalis wrote: »
    Also in my testing Windows 8.1 is more responsive than Windows 10 on equal hardware.

    Quite the opposite in my experience and I had Win 8.1 for awhile before happily upgrading to Win 10. Never regretted it once.
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