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Euro Parking Services Court Action

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  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    Adding it how - after a full breakdown of all the lies? Cannot be stand alone. 
    Maybe show us the signs
    But you had months to ask this!
  • Sheldore123451453
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    I've attached my redacted WS with photos, can you not see this? Just looking to see if I can add anything else that will help in this case that I might have missed out.
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    I'd suggest posting the photos in the thread. That way youre not relying on people downliading a doc
    Make it easy for people here. 
  • Sheldore123451453
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    Not sure if i was allowed to post photos but


  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 132,695 Forumite
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    Those pics are great evidence.  There is no way you knowingly agreed to £100 payment.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,504 Forumite
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    That sign is horrendous, reams of small prinf, are you expected to read it if is is raining?  How high is it?  Also,it is obscured by garffiti.  Read this

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5972164/parking-eye-signs-oxford-road-reading
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 132,695 Forumite
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    An urgent task – deadline is MONDAY!

    Please now make a real difference because not enough people have yet, and time is running out.  

    The Government is consulting for just a few more days, about a new statutory code of practice (CoP) and framework intended to rein in the rogue parking firms. 
    Does it go far enough?  Read and comment on the draft CoP proposal and the enforcement framework consultation (two separate consultation documents). 

    HOW TO DO THE SUBMISSIONS:
    BSI PAS 232 – COMMENTING ON THE CODE OF PRACTICE AS DRAFTED :
    1. You will need to register then log in, to comment on the CoP and enter an occupation even if you are retired or a homemaker.  

    2. Register, log into the BSI page, and download & read the cover letter here:

    3. Read the cover letter again and note the suggested extra questions... if you agree that, say, the 'loading/unloading and dropping off, asking for directions, and disabled people parking on double yellows as they can on street' activities listed should be exempt (not parking events, what do you think?) then please go to the Annexes at the end of the PAS Code and find the one about Exempt Vehicles and state what other activity you think should be added to the exempt list. 
     
    4. Download the PAS itself and start commenting on what you wish to say something about.  Quick links to each section appear on the left of your page.  

    You don’t have to comment on everything, e.g. you might want to skip the definitions and focus on later sections, and certainly look at the Annex tables at the end that show things like consideration & grace periods and exemptions.

    5. Submit comments when you are happy with them. Don’t just ‘SAVE’ and forget!

    THAT IS HALF THE JOB DONE!
    THE MHCLG CONSULTATION IS EASIER AS IT IS JUST A LIST OF QUESTIONS.  

    6. You can do it first if preferred or pushed for time:
    If your answers exceed 4000 characters (approx. 500 words to a single question or 16000 words (approx. 2500 words) for all the questions below, you can email your answers to parking@communities.gov.uk as long as you state who you are.

     

    THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU WILL SEE, FOR RESPONSES TO THE FRAMEWORK:
    Q1 Do you agree or disagree that members of APAs should be required to use a single appeals service appointed by the Secretary of State? 
    Strongly agree/Somewhat agree/Neither agree nor disagree/Somewhat disagree/Strongly disagree 

    Q1.1 Please explain your answer 
    (free text)


    Q2 Please provide any other feedback on the determination of appeals, including the funding model and features that an appeal service should offer e.g. telephone or in-person hearings, the ability to submit evidence online 
    (free text)

    Q3 Please provide any comments you have on the proposal to enforce the Code by combining the ATA’s existing audit procedures with additional safeguards. 
    (free text)

    Q4 Please outline any alternative means by which the Code could be monitored and enforced. You may wish to cite evidence from other regulatory frameworks which are relevant. 
    (free text)

    Q5 Please provide any feedback you have on the proposed governance arrangements for monitoring the new Code of Practice 
    (free text)

    Q6 Which parking charge system is most appropriate for private parking?
     a) the Three-tiered system
     b) Mirroring the Local Authority system
    (free text)

     Q6.1 Please explain your answer. You may, for example, wish to make reference to other deterrent frameworks (for example, for railway tickets or traffic violations) 
    (free text)


    Q7 What level of discount is appropriate: 
    40% as is currently offered in private parking and suggested in the three-tiered system, or 
    50% as is offered in Local Authority parking? 
    a) 40% 
    b) 50% 

    Q7.1 Please explain your answer, including whether the discount should be set at a different level 
    (free text)


     Q8 How should the level of parking charges be set and how should the levels be revised in future? 
    (free text)


    Q9 Do you agree or disagree in principle with the idea of the Appeals Charter? 
    Agree/Disagree 

    Q9.1 Please explain your answer 
    (free text)


    Q10 Do you agree or not that the examples given in the Appeals Charter are fair and appropriate? Agree/Disagree 

    Q10.1 Please explain your answer. 
    You may wish, for example, to suggest additional cases to be covered in an Appeals Charter or query existing examples. 
    (free text)

    Q11 Do you agree or disagree that the parking industry should contribute towards the cost of the regulation? 
    Agree/Disagree 

    Q11.1 Please explain your answer.
    (free text)

    YOU CAN INSTEAD GIVE MORE CONCISE ANSWERS ONLINE, USING THE MHCLG PAGE LINK.
    Don’t forget that answering these questions is the easier bit…
    Looking at the BSI PAS (the draft code of practice itself) involves logging in and submitting comments again, and again and again and takes more time!
    There is a discussion about PAS submissions and what the pages look like, here:

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  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    That entrance sign is golden. It contains what looks to be a complete set of terms for parking, an offer of an mount etc. Nothing telling you to look in the car park for more signs. Signs are i distinct and indee partially painted over. Nothing by the pay and display machine 

    you must absolutely major on that. 
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    The signs are junk ........ do EPS really think they can defend such rubbish in court ...... clearly they do and I suspect that they also believe in fairies ? 
    I bet though, the boys hiding in the Knutsford Golf club would have had a go, they love the feel of the hot cane the judges have on their desk
  • Sheldore123451453
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    D_P_Dance said:
    That sign is horrendous, reams of small prinf, are you expected to read it if is is raining?  How high is it?  Also,it is obscured by garffiti.  Read this

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5972164/parking-eye-signs-oxford-road-reading
    That photo I have attached is actually a zoomed in picture, fairly high up on the wall and still struggle to read it. They have also attached an orange parking sign in the claiments WS to see parking T&Cs which they claim is that the front of the parking entrance according to their 2015 site plan, guess they are wrong.

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