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She didn’t request it - he offered. And when he did so, he could easily have said ‘I’ll have to charge something for my labour’ and she would have then known from the start what the deal was.
Precisely!
And he could have - and should have - mentioned that he intended charging for his labour.
What has the work situation down south got to do with anything?I'm shocked and confused by the thread, mate family or other, I wouldn't expect anyone to do something for free, at the rate he is asking, you still have a bargain, I don't know what the work situation is down south.
I'd certainly being paying over 10 quid an hour whether cash in hand or not.
Around here you wouldn't think there is any lack of work around as many traders simply do not even show to view a job.
Why do something for nothing, when you can do nothing for nothing.
Simply pay and future jobs do not request the services of the said person in future.
The person who has done the work isn't just 'a trader'.
He's the OP's FIL.
And he's retired so it's not as though doing the work has affected his income.My father in law was a builder by trade before retiring in 2012.0 -
I'm shocked and confused by the thread, mate family or other, I wouldn't expect anyone to do something for free, at the rate he is asking, you still have a bargain, I don't know what the work situation is down south.
I'd certainly being paying over 10 quid an hour whether cash in hand or not.
Around here you wouldn't think there is any lack of work around as many traders simply do not even show to view a job.
Why do something for nothing, when you can do nothing for nothing.
Simply pay and future jobs do not request the services of the said person in future.
Re - read the OP again. Why should she pay for something that wasn't even mentioned let alone discussed ie the labour cost. His OFFERING to help and the sending a bill with nothing said is bang out of order. I'd be refusing to pay!0 -
Possible scenario is FIL got talking down the pub to mates and over a drink or 3 starting moaning that he had spent all day yesterday until 8pm doing son's kitchen. Mates as they do would be outraged on his behalf and say "You should bill them"......substitute mates for wife/other family and you could see how this may have come about. Son needs a father son chat mano a mano lol...sort it out with a hug and a beer.0
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She didn’t request it - he offered. And when he did so, he could easily have said ‘I’ll have to charge something for my labour’ and she would have then known from the start what the deal was.
Personally I just think it is very wrong to expect someone to do something of that nature for free, the OP could should have offered to pay a contribution {of at least NLW) and leave the worker whether they wish to accept a payment or not.0 -
Precisely!
And he could have - and should have - mentioned that he intended charging for his labour.
What has the work situation down south got to do with anything?
The person who has done the work isn't just 'a trader'.
He's the OP's FIL.
And he's retired so it's not as though doing the work has affected his income.
IIRC the OP have their own business, by the logic of the thread, do family members get the goods or services of the business free?
Because it's a family member, they should be more willing to pay, as said in another reply it's just wrong to expect and be on the take (that's how I see it), whether paid or free, where would the OP and partner be with their project if it were not for the additional help?0 -
Personally I just think it is very wrong to expect someone to do something of that nature for free, the OP could should have offered to pay a contribution {of at least NLW) and leave the worker whether they wish to accept a payment or not.
Should they deduct the labour costs from the meals and Xmas gift bought as a thank you?
Should they pay in cash a requested to avoid tax?0 -
Would you pay your mother for babysitting if she’d been a professional nursery school assistant before retiring? What’s the difference?0
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<<sighs>>Personally I just think it is very wrong to expect someone to do something of that nature for free, the OP could should have offered to pay a contribution {of at least NLW) and leave the worker whether they wish to accept a payment or not.
The FIL offered.
<<sighs again>>IIRC the OP have their own business, by the logic of the thread, do family members get the goods or services of the business free?
Because it's a family member, they should be more willing to pay, as said in another reply it's just wrong to expect and be on the take (that's how I see it), whether paid or free, where would the OP and partner be with their project if it were not for the additional help?
The FIL offered.
The FIL doesn't have his own business.
He had his own business.
He is now retired.
If the FIL hadn't offered, maybe the OP & her OH would have done things more slowly, as they could afford to do things.
I think this thread needs the OP to come back and let us know how the conversation between her OH and his Father went.0 -
<<sighs>>
The FIL offered.
<<sighs again>>
The FIL offered.
The FIL doesn't have his own business.
He had his own business.
He is now retired.
If the FIL hadn't offered, maybe the OP & her OH would have done things more slowly, as they could afford to do things.
I think this thread needs the OP to come back and let us know how the conversation between her OH and his Father went.
I agree we should have info and the other party's agreement.
As to my mind the FIL may have offered and agreed payment which the other half failed to mention to the OP until bill time.0
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