Can you make someone else lose weight?

maman

svain wrote: »

The problem is less the type of food, but the quantity consumed. Get the volume of food consumed down along with exercise and you will lose weight.

That may be true but it's not the healthier option. The OP's husband could end up thinner but with health issues from poor food choices.

svain

maman wrote: »

That may be true but it's not the healthier option. The OP's husband could end up thinner but with health issues from poor food choices.

Ide rather be thinner with average diet than bigger and a so called healthy diet. Exercise over everything is the key imo. Junk (or what we now call junk) is less of an issue if eaten in moderation

svain

motorguy wrote: »

I had a woman in work the other day - wholly morbidly obese, a massive woman - tell me as she tucked in to a box of quality street at 11 oclock in the morning - that her doctor had told her she had a medical condition that made her put on weight, therefore it wasnt her fault.

Her husband too, she was telling me is 26 stone - i wonder what excuse he gives....?

This is the problem ... The costs incurred for the obese is sinking the NHS and yet people still find excuses. Society is starting to frown upon the obese (thru eating) as they do/did on smokers and will become socially unacceptable in time. This change in itself will reduce the problem hopefully

Pollycat

svain wrote: »

Ide rather be thinner with average diet than bigger and a so called healthy diet. Exercise over everything is the key imo. Junk (or what we now call junk) is less of an issue if eaten in moderation

I'd guess that it's probably quite hard for a 23 stone guy to start doing exercise.

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pinkshoes wrote: »

That is a myth!

The cheapest food is home cooked - you can make a cottage pie far cheaper than junk!

No it isn't. You can 'prove' anything if you cherry-pick one item to suit your argument.

I've just checked 25 of the meals I eat, (12 processed, 13 home cooked) and the home cooked ones are 43% more expensive on average.

Here's the same conclusion from Cambridge University, except that they found that the healthiest foodstuffs were even more expensive:

"The mean 2012 price/1000 kcal was £2.50 for less healthy items and £7.49 for more healthy items."

The idea that it's easy to eat healthily on a budget is just another of the many ways in which the poor are made to look lazy.

(My homemade cottage pie costs more than double the average for my diet as a whole.)

NeilCr

Pollycat wrote: »

I'd guess that it's probably quite hard for a 23 stone guy to start doing exercise.

Psychologically maybe. Physically no.

We’re not talking about doing a marathon here. It’s about walking a few yards and gradually increasing that over a period of time.

maman

maman wrote: »

That may be true but it's not the healthier option. The OP's husband could end up thinner but with health issues from poor food choices.

svain wrote: »

The problem is less the type of food, but the quantity consumed. Get the volume of food consumed down along with exercise and you will lose weight.

svain wrote: »

Ide rather be thinner with average diet than bigger and a so called healthy diet. Exercise over everything is the key imo. Junk (or what we now call junk) is less of an issue if eaten in moderation

My original point was exactly that. You can be thinner by eating healthy food and still having some treats /junk. Just keeping calories low isn't necessarily a healthy option. We've all heard of the coffee and fag breakfast! Exercise is good but it's food that is key IMO.

PeacefulWaters

Pollycat wrote: »

I'd guess that it's probably quite hard for a 23 stone guy to start doing exercise.

It's amazing how quickly my ten minute circuits round the local park turned into twenty minute walks to the local co-op and then thirty minute walks to the end of the country lane and into forty minute walks to the local reservoir and then a seventy minute walk and loop around the local reservoir and back home.

No gym, no weights, no jogging. But massively fitter.

Anoneemoose

No, you can't and putting pressure on him will likely be one of the things putting him off anyway.

In addition, between 80 and 95% of people who attempt to manipulate their weight through dieting, regain the weight and more.

Please don't be sucked into the Slimming World hype either. It touts itself as a healthy lifestyle but it was the cause of many problems, including bulimia for me. And lots of others too. It is essentially a low fat, calorie controlled diet and we now know low fat isn't good for you.
People believe that because you're 'allowed to eat' fruit and veg and cook from scratch that it's healthy, but don't forget you can cook from scratch and eat fruit and veg regardless. And SW also heavily push processed rubbish too. You have to count whole foods like avocado and nuts as syns, yet you can eat 15 full of nasties mullerlights if you wanted because they're 'free'.

Taking the focus off his weight will help. Just concentrate on trying to encourage a well balanced, mainly unprocessed diet. Try also to find things he might like to do exercise wise, without it being because of his weight. Could you go for walks together for example? Exercise is a celebration of what our bodies can do, not a punishment for what we eat.

Engaging in healthy behaviours like a well balanced diet and movement, as well as enjoying himself, so as to reduce stress, will bring about positive changes regardless of whether he loses weight.

motorguy

svain wrote: »

This is the problem ... The costs incurred for the obese is sinking the NHS and yet people still find excuses. Society is starting to frown upon the obese (thru eating) as they do/did on smokers and will become socially unacceptable in time. This change in itself will reduce the problem hopefully

I totally agree. I think thats the way it will go with obesity.

I listened to her one morning when she came in after being to the doctors. There wasnt one ailment she had that wouldnt be significantly improved if she lost weight.

• "Well my knee joints are still giving me problems"
• "I've still pains in my hips"
• "Hes given me new pain killers for my back"
• "My asthma medication has been increased"
• "My diabetes still gives me issues"
• "My blood pressure is still high so hes increased my medication"