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Am I wrong to think this way?

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  • IAmWales
    IAmWales Posts: 2,024 Forumite
    gale_lomax wrote: »
    all my guests are in fully central heated rooms, and are in most of the day watching tv. In fact once here don't want to leave as they become as one of the family.

    One of the family that you make a profit from?

    Tell us how much you make from your guest house patrons, and then tell us how much you begrudge them getting a small extra payment for the odd week.
  • Archergirl
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    gale_lomax wrote: »
    i am a landlord (b&b) who takes in lodgers some of the lodgers get cold weather payments even though i pay all the bills 200 hundred pounds each. I also think this is wrong. why should the government pay this money for people who are NOT responsible for thier own energy bills

    The same reason that the government send this cold weather payment to ex pats living in Spain etc..........
  • thorsoak
    thorsoak Posts: 7,166 Forumite
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    Archergirl wrote: »
    The same reason that the government send this cold weather payment to ex pats living in Spain etc..........

    Cold Weather Payments are paid when there’s very cold weather in the area where someone who is entitled to claim such benefit because they already are in receipt of Income Support or income-based Jobseeker's Allowance and have any of the following: a disability or pensioner premium, Child Tax Credit that includes a disability or severe disability element.

    Cold weather is defined by the Met Office as being when the average temperature has been‚ or is expected to be‚ 0°C or below for 7 days in a row. The Met Office use specific weather stations that forecast and record temperatures.

    I am not aware that the Met Office uses specific weather stations in Spain, so your comment is questionable.
  • Archergirl
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    Cold weather is defined by the Met Office as being when the average temperature has been‚ or is expected to be‚ 0°C or below for 7 days in a row. The Met Office use specific weather stations that forecast and record temperatures.

    I am not aware that the Met Office uses specific weather stations in Spain, so your comment is questionable.
    No that's for Extra money I think, all people over pension age get £200 (or if a couple £100 each)
    But this is off topic........
  • Ames
    Ames Posts: 18,459 Forumite
    Archergirl wrote: »
    Cold weather is defined by the Met Office as being when the average temperature has been‚ or is expected to be‚ 0°C or below for 7 days in a row. The Met Office use specific weather stations that forecast and record temperatures.

    I am not aware that the Met Office uses specific weather stations in Spain, so your comment is questionable.
    No that's for Extra money I think, all people over pension age get £200 (or if a couple £100 each)
    But this is off topic........

    They stopped giving it to pensioners who spend the winter in hot countries a few years ago. There was some controversy because some parts of spain are cold in winter.
    Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.
  • Archergirl
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    They stopped giving it to pensioners who spend the winter in hot countries a few years ago. There was some controversy because some parts of spain are cold in winter.
    But a lot of them still have an address here so they will still get it, they come back for their NHS operations as well.........
  • pearl123
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    edited 12 November 2017 at 8:04PM
    gale_lomax wrote: »
    i am a landlord (b&b) who takes in lodgers some of the lodgers get cold weather payments even though i pay all the bills 200 hundred pounds each. I also think this is wrong. why should the government pay this money for people who are NOT responsible for thier own energy bills
    Firstly, getting this small payment depends on 7 days at zero degrees of below. If there are breaks in the temperature and it goes up and down in temperate then their is no payment. In the last 10 years my mother has only received this payment only once.

    It really is beyond me why you begrudge the fact that some of your lodgers get this very small payment once in a blue moon!
  • AdamPD
    AdamPD Posts: 217 Forumite
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    My dad ended up sending me the £100 of the £200 he got, but I sent it back to his bank and apologized.

    I'm still waiting to see what happens with this £501 overpayment on the electric/gas though.

    Sadly he doesn't seem to keep any bank statements around that might indicate whether he's been doing it for a while.
  • i never said i begrudged anybody getting this payment especially my guest. the point i was trying to make was the government are trying to save money on the benefit bill so why pay people cold weather payment when they live in an establishment were are the bills are included
  • thorsoak
    thorsoak Posts: 7,166 Forumite
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    gale_lomax wrote: »
    i never said i begrudged anybody getting this payment especially my guest. the point i was trying to make was the government are trying to save money on the benefit bill so why pay people cold weather payment when they live in an establishment were are the bills are included

    So if you don't begrudge your lodgers this payment, why are you commenting on it? You remind me of the comments of a certain E. Scrooge, way, way back in 1843:-

    "Are there no prisons? "And the Union workhouses?" demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation? "The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?"

    "At this festive seas on of the year, Mr. Scrooge,it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and Destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir."
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