Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Theophile

Tromking wrote: »

I heard a stat last night that said 70% of Labour constituencies voted leave.

Leave the EU, yes.
How many Labour constituencies voted to leave the Customs Union?

Tromking

Theophile wrote: »

As you're in a safe Tory seat, your vote doesn't really matter.

That`s why I prefaced my comment with 'FWIW'.
That`s not to say that people like me in traditional Labour heartlands won't follow suit.
A big gamble for Corbyn.

Filo25

Tromking wrote: »

That`s why I prefaced my comment with 'FWIW'.
That`s not to say that people like me in traditional Labour heartlands won't follow suit.
A big gamble for Corbyn.

What choice does he have though, their strength in London and the metropolitan areas is under threat if they follow the same path as the Tories, a lot of people voted Labour last time in spite of their vague approach to Brexit to give Theresa May a bloody nose, I'm not sure Labour can carry on saying nothing meaningful on the issue as time ticks down.

Tromking

Theophile wrote: »

Leave the EU, yes.
How many Labour constituencies voted to leave the Customs Union?

That`s a remain voter nuance that will get lost in the Tory cries of 'Brexit Betrayal' come election time.

Filo25

Tromking wrote: »

That`s a remain voter nuance that will get lost in the Tory cries of 'Brexit Betrayal' come election time.

I think a lot of people have already gotten a bit bored of "Brexit betrayal" everytime someone someone comes out with a policy different whatever Paul Dacre decides Brexit meant.

I think for Labour there are a lot of votes to be had for "Protecting our economy" while "controlling our borders", my not massively informed opinion on this is for a lot of Labour's traditional vote in the North, immigration was a bigger issue than other sovereignty issues.

Anyway we probably aren't having an election until a lot of this has played out.

Filo25

ilovehouses wrote: »

She seems to have persuaded everyone in the Chequers meeting that they've won which is quite a feat.

Her ability to kick the can down the road is clearly unmatched, unfortunately the end of the road is coming into sight up ahead.

Tromking

Filo25 wrote: »

Their constituencies may have, it doesn't mean their voters did, every study has shown most Labour voters voted Remain by a fair margin, in spite of lukewarm support for the cause by the Labour leadership during the referendum.

For the purpose of this exercise its the number of seats you win.
Although I guess its also important to reflect the majority view of your voters.

Filo25

Tromking wrote: »

For the purpose of this exercise its the number of seats you win.
Although I guess its also important to reflect the majority view of your voters.

It is but that also assumes everyone will vote down Brexit lines between Labour and the Tories, that wasn't the case in 2017 and it won't be in 2022, I'm not sure how many traditional Labour voters are going to be rushing out to vote Tory over the Customs Union alone.

As Important as Brexit is I believe the Tories should be a lot more concerned with finding a leader to take them into the next election who can vaguely unite the party, have broader popular appeal, and a new popular policy agenda, and if they think that is Jacob Rees Mogg I suspect they may be in for something of a disappointment.

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

It's an 88 page document, of almost entire doublespeak. Can you do me a favour and narrow it down for me?

Sorry but it's not my fault if you have trouble reading.

cogito

Theophile wrote: »

Leave the EU, yes.
How many Labour constituencies voted to leave the Customs Union?

All those that voted leave. Why?