Cash in hand / JSA & HB

elsien

You really need to check with them first that they're willing to have any thing recorded on paper. If they're pulling a fast one they may not want any sort of paper trail and it's better to find that out before you've done the shift than after.

annandale

Yes, if you are self employed you have to register as a sole trader with HMRC and complete tax returns. Personally I think you'll hit problems with this lot as the above poster suggested.

epitome

serbian_ork wrote: »

Ok so basically I go and do my shifts for the week, and then on the first shift of the next week I give them an invoice for what I did, I keep a copy for myself, and then that's it. Sounds simple enough.

I just don't want any problems or complications.

EDIT : Wait, do I have to do accounting?

LOL, yes, you have to "keep accounts" you have to keep and write up accurate records.

You have to declare those accounts each year to the tax man HMRC.
You might consider using a local accountant to do the submission for you, should cost about £400 - £500 for an accountant to submit your accounts for you. Much easier like this, but if you can do it yourself if you weant to. An accountant will usually be able to come up with some disregards and expenses that you don't know about, which can mean that the accountants fees are recovered in full from your tax bill.
But if you don't earn very much you won't have a tax bill anyway,,, and therefore you would still be paying for your accountant. IYSWIM

serbian_ork

epitome wrote: »

LOL, yes, you have to "keep accounts" you have to keep and write up accurate records.

You have to declare those accounts each year to the tax man HMRC.
You might consider using a local accountant to do the submission for you, should cost about £400 - £500 for an accountant to submit your accounts for you. Much easier like this, but if you can do it yourself if you weant to. An accountant will usually be able to come up with some disregards and expenses that you don't know about, which can mean that the accountants fees are recovered in full from your tax bill.
But if you don't earn very much you won't have a tax bill anyway,,, and therefore you would still be paying for your accountant. IYSWIM

You mean I have to do all that debits and credits stuff, and ledgers and all the rest of it? I thought tax didn't have to be taxing, if you're a sole trader. Wouldn't a tax return be sufficient?

annandale

If you dont earn much you are as well doing it on your own, I always did my own tax return

A tax return isnt sufficient on its own as you can be spot checked at any time by HMRC

You have to find out first whether you can be self employed.

epitome

You have to keep expenses receipts and invoices you make out. You have to back this up with yearly accounts showing a total Gross & Net income. You have to keep these records for 5 years.

You also do a tax return, which an accountant can do for you.

HMRC can ask to see your accounts which support your tax return for up to 5 years.

annandale

You can easily do your own tax return. Earning 80 pounds a week, your tax return won't be complicated

Sncjw

I wouldn’t be taking this job for 10 hours a week. You will be paid less than what you get with Jsa unless you do a top up claim. I used to work 6 hours a week and got a top up payment as I was working under 16 hours.

However I did have to provide proof from wage slips.

If it were me I wouldn’t take this job. You probably going to be doing more hours to get your head around self employment than actually working.

Find a job that pays ni and tax for you and gives you payslips

decbel

I know what I would do in these circumstances.

I'm only talking for myself-I would fiddle it.

I certainly wouldn't sign off.

And I'd keep my gob shut.

patman99

It sounds very much like a job that breaches HMRC Rule 32. The shop will set the hours and provide the work for Serbian ork.

This sounds very much like they are attempting to circumvent holiday pay and employment rights. I would not touch the job with a bargepole and would be having a chat with my iPad coach about my concerns at my next signing appointment.