Cash in hand / JSA & HB

DoubleDoors

You don't need to tell them about your new job if you're not going to be claiming. If you are going to be claiming benefits they do get a bit nosey. However, I'm unclear about what exactly is the nature of your employment, so can't really answer your original question, sorry.

If it's cash in hand, you risk someone grassing on you to the authorities (if they know you're on benefits, that is), so it's up to you whether you want to take that risk. I'm sure many people do..

elsien

Have you read the OPs posts? He's quite clearly said he wants to declare it but is unsure of the correct mechanism without payslips. Sounds to me like an iffy employer, not the OP.

epitome

Ask them...

Am I employed or self employed contractor to you?

If they say employed, they have to give you payslips.

If they say you are self employed, then phone HMRC and ask them what steps you need to follow to get proof from them like do they need to return your invoices... I don't think they do -but I don't know, so I would ask HMRC- In my opinion you are free to give them an invoice, but they keep that for their records and they just pay you by cheque. bank or cash, it is up to them how they want to pay you and it is up to you to tell them what types of payment you will accept. (if you can't agree they will find someone else.) You are then obliged to give them a receipt for payment, but they are not (as far as I know) not obliged to give you anything (except payment).

It then falls to you to keep and declare your accounts to Inland Revenue and to show these to Housing benefit when requested to do so.

That's how I see it.

serbian_ork

If it turns out that I can do this as self employed, then I could print out an invoice each week, containing entries for each shift. One copy for them and one copy for me. But at the end of the day that doesn't actually constitute proof, it just means that I billed them for my time.

On the other hand a payslip is much more official and HMRC (and the council) can easily find out for themselves that it's legit and that I did indeed get paid that amount.

I'm happy to create invoices (I looked into it and it's very easy), but I'm concerned that they may not be considered proof. An invoice is just me saying what I earned, just like filling in a form.

annandale

Surely you can phone them and ask them?

Darksparkle

serbian_ork wrote: »

If it turns out that I can do this as self employed, then I could print out an invoice each week, containing entries for each shift. One copy for them and one copy for me. But at the end of the day that doesn't actually constitute proof, it just means that I billed them for my time.

On the other hand a payslip is much more official and HMRC (and the council) can easily find out for themselves that it's legit and that I did indeed get paid that amount.

I'm happy to create invoices (I looked into it and it's very easy), but I'm concerned that they may not be considered proof. An invoice is just me saying what I earned, just like filling in a form.

You can also then confirm on it the date paid and be able to show cash deposits for the same amount into your bank account.

serbian_ork

Darksparkle wrote: »

You can also then confirm on it the date paid and be able to show cash deposits for the same amount into your bank account.

Do I have to do that? It's not a problem, the bank is very close, I could do it once a week.

annandale

You have to keep records for HMRC if you are going to be self employed so yes. You also need to register as self employed with HMRC, the timescale is 3 months but it can be longer depending on where in the tax year it is and when you started the business.

epitome

Your self employment records, which are called "accounts" are your proof.

You will be self declaring what your incomings and outgoings are. This is your proof.

You do not have to put it in the bank everytime. Your self declared records are your proof. That is what being self employed is all about.

serbian_ork

epitome wrote: »

Your self employment records, which are called "accounts" are your proof.

You will be self declaring what your incomings and outgoings are. This is your proof.

You do not have to put it in the bank everytime. Your self declared records are your proof. That is what being self employed is all about.

Ok so basically I go and do my shifts for the week, and then on the first shift of the next week I give them an invoice for what I did, I keep a copy for myself, and then that's it. Sounds simple enough.

I just don't want any problems or complications.

EDIT : Wait, do I have to do accounting?