Land Registry questions

Lafamilia

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Good morning Land registry, please could you confirm whether requisitions remain outstanding on SF324674, we are at a grinding halt on SF295610 until it is resolved

Good Morning Land Registry, has there been any movement on either of the above titles please?  THanks in advance.

Hi land registry, I'm living in eternal hope that there may have been some movement on the above, some papers were signed over the last few days, if you could take a look when you get a moment I would appreciate it. Thank you.

If they have then they haven’t made it to us as yet - sorry 

Good Morning LR, please could you take a peek at SF324674, we are being told that all has been provided to Land Registry and as far as they are concerned there is nothing else outstanding, and they are unable to advise when LR will update the records. Can you shed any further light.  We are slightly sceptical given the length of time this has been trundling on thus far.

We haven’t got everything yet and issued a reminder on 23rd June to that effect. I’d suggest the lodging conveyancer gets in touch to confirm 

Morning Land registry, could you take a peek at the above and advise whether this is still the same? Thank you.

Land_Registry

Lafamilia said:

Land_Registry said:

Lafamilia said:

Land_Registry said:

Lafamilia said:

Lafamilia said:

Lafamilia said:

Good morning Land registry, please could you confirm whether requisitions remain outstanding on SF324674, we are at a grinding halt on SF295610 until it is resolved

Good Morning Land Registry, has there been any movement on either of the above titles please?  THanks in advance.

Hi land registry, I'm living in eternal hope that there may have been some movement on the above, some papers were signed over the last few days, if you could take a look when you get a moment I would appreciate it. Thank you.

If they have then they haven’t made it to us as yet - sorry 

Good Morning LR, please could you take a peek at SF324674, we are being told that all has been provided to Land Registry and as far as they are concerned there is nothing else outstanding, and they are unable to advise when LR will update the records. Can you shed any further light.  We are slightly sceptical given the length of time this has been trundling on thus far.

We haven’t got everything yet and issued a reminder on 23rd June to that effect. I’d suggest the lodging conveyancer gets in touch to confirm 

Morning Land registry, could you take a peek at the above and advise whether this is still the same? Thank you.

No change at this end so still the same 

Lafamilia

Land_Registry said:

Lafamilia said:

Land_Registry said:

Lafamilia said:

Land_Registry said:

Lafamilia said:

Lafamilia said:

Lafamilia said:

Good morning Land registry, please could you confirm whether requisitions remain outstanding on SF324674, we are at a grinding halt on SF295610 until it is resolved

Good Morning Land Registry, has there been any movement on either of the above titles please?  THanks in advance.

Hi land registry, I'm living in eternal hope that there may have been some movement on the above, some papers were signed over the last few days, if you could take a look when you get a moment I would appreciate it. Thank you.

If they have then they haven’t made it to us as yet - sorry 

Good Morning LR, please could you take a peek at SF324674, we are being told that all has been provided to Land Registry and as far as they are concerned there is nothing else outstanding, and they are unable to advise when LR will update the records. Can you shed any further light.  We are slightly sceptical given the length of time this has been trundling on thus far.

We haven’t got everything yet and issued a reminder on 23rd June to that effect. I’d suggest the lodging conveyancer gets in touch to confirm 

Morning Land registry, could you take a peek at the above and advise whether this is still the same? Thank you.

No change at this end so still the same 

Thanks Land registry, I've sent a Direct message, hope that is ok.

MoneyGeoff

My property has positive covenants regarding maintenance of a driveway that is shared with 2 other properties. The cost allocation is unfair so we’d like to update it to state that maintenance and repair costs for the driveway should be split equally between the 3 properties, ie each property pays one third. Which form should I complete?

Land_Registry

MoneyGeoff said:

My property has positive covenants regarding maintenance of a driveway that is shared with 2 other properties. The cost allocation is unfair so we’d like to update it to state that maintenance and repair costs for the driveway should be split equally between the 3 properties, ie each property pays one third. Which form should I complete?

If the titles are registered then form AP1 is the form to use to update each register. You then submit the form plus supporting evidence as appropriate. 

Varying covenants is invariably done by way of a legal deed between all affected parties 

MoneyGeoff

Land_Registry said:

MoneyGeoff said:

My property has positive covenants regarding maintenance of a driveway that is shared with 2 other properties. The cost allocation is unfair so we’d like to update it to state that maintenance and repair costs for the driveway should be split equally between the 3 properties, ie each property pays one third. Which form should I complete?

If the titles are registered then form AP1 is the form to use to update each register. You then submit the form plus supporting evidence as appropriate. 

Varying covenants is invariably done by way of a legal deed between all affected parties 

Thanks. There is also a shared septic tank and positive covenants on my title regarding maintenance and repair of the septic tank. I am planning to stop using it and to install a separate sewage treatment solution on my own property rather than sharing. Would I need to submit AP1 for that too, in order to remove the covenants for the shared septic tank that I no longer use? 

Land_Registry

MoneyGeoff said:

Land_Registry said:

MoneyGeoff said:

My property has positive covenants regarding maintenance of a driveway that is shared with 2 other properties. The cost allocation is unfair so we’d like to update it to state that maintenance and repair costs for the driveway should be split equally between the 3 properties, ie each property pays one third. Which form should I complete?

If the titles are registered then form AP1 is the form to use to update each register. You then submit the form plus supporting evidence as appropriate. 

Varying covenants is invariably done by way of a legal deed between all affected parties 

Thanks. There is also a shared septic tank and positive covenants on my title regarding maintenance and repair of the septic tank. I am planning to stop using it and to install a separate sewage treatment solution on my own property rather than sharing. Would I need to submit AP1 for that too, in order to remove the covenants for the shared septic tank that I no longer use? 

AP1 is the application form used to update a registered title as appropriate. It doesn’t change anything on it’s own though as if you are varying or releasing or creating new covenants or indeed easements you need a legal deed to do that. That legal deed needs to be made with the affected parties 
Your posts read as if it’s just you planning to do certain things but that’s not something that would support a register update. Stopping to use a septic tank and installing a new solution are actions only. They’re not registrable in themselves 

MoneyGeoff

Land_Registry said:

MoneyGeoff said:

Land_Registry said:

MoneyGeoff said:

My property has positive covenants regarding maintenance of a driveway that is shared with 2 other properties. The cost allocation is unfair so we’d like to update it to state that maintenance and repair costs for the driveway should be split equally between the 3 properties, ie each property pays one third. Which form should I complete?

If the titles are registered then form AP1 is the form to use to update each register. You then submit the form plus supporting evidence as appropriate. 

Varying covenants is invariably done by way of a legal deed between all affected parties 

Thanks. There is also a shared septic tank and positive covenants on my title regarding maintenance and repair of the septic tank. I am planning to stop using it and to install a separate sewage treatment solution on my own property rather than sharing. Would I need to submit AP1 for that too, in order to remove the covenants for the shared septic tank that I no longer use? 

AP1 is the application form used to update a registered title as appropriate. It doesn’t change anything on it’s own though as if you are varying or releasing or creating new covenants or indeed easements you need a legal deed to do that. That legal deed needs to be made with the affected parties 
Your posts read as if it’s just you planning to do certain things but that’s not something that would support a register update. Stopping to use a septic tank and installing a new solution are actions only. They’re not registrable in themselves 

Thanks. I agree that the actions themselves are not registerable. My concern is that if I don’t update the land registry it will leave me unable to sell my house in the future. Eg my property will have its own septic tank and in addition to that, the title will say that I still have to pay for the shared septic tank that I no longer use. Nobody is going to want to buy my house if it has a convenant to maintain someone else’s septic tank.

To put it another way, if I draw up a legal deed with my neighbours, how do I request that the land registry associate the legal deed with my title? A legal covenant that isn’t held by the land registry is worthless because the land registry is held as the source of truth in a property transaction. Decades from now a legal deed can be lost and forgotten so future buyers and sellers will be unaware of it if it’s not held by the land registry.

Land_Registry

MoneyGeoff said:

Land_Registry said:

MoneyGeoff said:

Land_Registry said:

MoneyGeoff said:

My property has positive covenants regarding maintenance of a driveway that is shared with 2 other properties. The cost allocation is unfair so we’d like to update it to state that maintenance and repair costs for the driveway should be split equally between the 3 properties, ie each property pays one third. Which form should I complete?

If the titles are registered then form AP1 is the form to use to update each register. You then submit the form plus supporting evidence as appropriate. 

Varying covenants is invariably done by way of a legal deed between all affected parties 

Thanks. There is also a shared septic tank and positive covenants on my title regarding maintenance and repair of the septic tank. I am planning to stop using it and to install a separate sewage treatment solution on my own property rather than sharing. Would I need to submit AP1 for that too, in order to remove the covenants for the shared septic tank that I no longer use? 

AP1 is the application form used to update a registered title as appropriate. It doesn’t change anything on it’s own though as if you are varying or releasing or creating new covenants or indeed easements you need a legal deed to do that. That legal deed needs to be made with the affected parties 
Your posts read as if it’s just you planning to do certain things but that’s not something that would support a register update. Stopping to use a septic tank and installing a new solution are actions only. They’re not registrable in themselves 

Thanks. I agree that the actions themselves are not registerable. My concern is that if I don’t update the land registry it will leave me unable to sell my house in the future. Eg my property will have its own septic tank and in addition to that, the title will say that I still have to pay for the shared septic tank that I no longer use. Nobody is going to want to buy my house if it has a convenant to maintain someone else’s septic tank.

To put it another way, if I draw up a legal deed with my neighbours, how do I request that the land registry associate the legal deed with my title? A legal covenant that isn’t held by the land registry is worthless because the land registry is held as the source of truth in a property transaction. Decades from now a legal deed can be lost and forgotten so future buyers and sellers will be unaware of it if it’s not held by the land registry.

Hence you create a legal deed that achieves what you want. And then you apply to note it against the relevant titles. 

Covenants are imposed for the benefit of others. Likewise other provisions and more. So you look at what’s imposed, who benefits from or is subject to it/them and then find a legal solution that does what you want to achieve. If that’s a legal deed and it can be registered then you apply as explained. 

You should seek legal advice as with all such things it’s the legal requirements you need to meet first. Registration ones then follow 

MoneyGeoff

Land_Registry said:

MoneyGeoff said:

Land_Registry said:

MoneyGeoff said:

Land_Registry said:

MoneyGeoff said:

My property has positive covenants regarding maintenance of a driveway that is shared with 2 other properties. The cost allocation is unfair so we’d like to update it to state that maintenance and repair costs for the driveway should be split equally between the 3 properties, ie each property pays one third. Which form should I complete?

If the titles are registered then form AP1 is the form to use to update each register. You then submit the form plus supporting evidence as appropriate. 

Varying covenants is invariably done by way of a legal deed between all affected parties 

Thanks. There is also a shared septic tank and positive covenants on my title regarding maintenance and repair of the septic tank. I am planning to stop using it and to install a separate sewage treatment solution on my own property rather than sharing. Would I need to submit AP1 for that too, in order to remove the covenants for the shared septic tank that I no longer use? 

AP1 is the application form used to update a registered title as appropriate. It doesn’t change anything on it’s own though as if you are varying or releasing or creating new covenants or indeed easements you need a legal deed to do that. That legal deed needs to be made with the affected parties 
Your posts read as if it’s just you planning to do certain things but that’s not something that would support a register update. Stopping to use a septic tank and installing a new solution are actions only. They’re not registrable in themselves 

Thanks. I agree that the actions themselves are not registerable. My concern is that if I don’t update the land registry it will leave me unable to sell my house in the future. Eg my property will have its own septic tank and in addition to that, the title will say that I still have to pay for the shared septic tank that I no longer use. Nobody is going to want to buy my house if it has a convenant to maintain someone else’s septic tank.

To put it another way, if I draw up a legal deed with my neighbours, how do I request that the land registry associate the legal deed with my title? A legal covenant that isn’t held by the land registry is worthless because the land registry is held as the source of truth in a property transaction. Decades from now a legal deed can be lost and forgotten so future buyers and sellers will be unaware of it if it’s not held by the land registry.

Hence you create a legal deed that achieves what you want. And then you apply to note it against the relevant titles. 

Covenants are imposed for the benefit of others. Likewise other provisions and more. So you look at what’s imposed, who benefits from or is subject to it/them and then find a legal solution that does what you want to achieve. If that’s a legal deed and it can be registered then you apply as explained. 

You should seek legal advice as with all such things it’s the legal requirements you need to meet first. Registration ones then follow 

It’s the “and then you apply to note it against the relevant titles” that I need to understand. How do I apply? Is this done via form AP1?