Land Registry questions

lyrvid

Hi,
My purchase is currently stuck waiting on a transfer of part to complete (i am buying the remaining land of the title) is there any chance I can get an update / expedite if it hasn't been already? The solicitor dealing with this is currently on holiday. Title in question is CB277152.
Thanks!

Land_Registry

lyrvid said:

Hi,
My purchase is currently stuck waiting on a transfer of part to complete (i am buying the remaining land of the title) is there any chance I can get an update / expedite if it hasn't been already? The solicitor dealing with this is currently on holiday. Title in question is CB277152.
Thanks!

There’s no application affecting that title with us currently and nor has there been since the start of last year when new owners were registered. 

Perhaps DM with the names/specific details 

buyinghouse

Hello @Land_Registry ,

We are purchasing a house which has a charge to it, it has taken a long time due to the seller and their solicitor having issues locating the creditor (originally Egg Banking plc). The creditor was tracked down finally last week, they have given a redemption figure and they have sent B4 to Land Registry and requested that this is expedited, Land Registry have raised a requisition today which the solicitor is dealing with. 

What time scale should we expect here? 

Our mortgage offer expires on the 4th Oct and we need to exchange contracts by the 26th Sept to meet our buyer's mortgage company's requirements so time is running out here. 

Many thanks in advance. 

Thrak

I'm facing an issue where I have no idea where to start. I'm hoping to sell soon but there is land adjoining mine which has become overgrown with weeds which has now affected what appears to be, according to title plans, land of a few more properties as well as my own. Given that this land seems to be a grey area in terms of ownership I fear that I may be left having to pay for it to be cleared, as the person who it is affecting the most. Firstly, how might I confirm who owns which parts of this land for certain (and considering I have zero funds)? Secondly, what sort of mechanism might there be to try and make sure the cost is shared, my part of it being likely less than 20%? I've tried to get my head around this but there are a confusion of suggestions and my brain isn't what it was!

silvercar

Thrak said:

I'm facing an issue where I have no idea where to start. I'm hoping to sell soon but there is land adjoining mine which has become overgrown with weeds which has now affected what appears to be, according to title plans, land of a few more properties as well as my own. Given that this land seems to be a grey area in terms of ownership I fear that I may be left having to pay for it to be cleared, as the person who it is affecting the most. Firstly, how might I confirm who owns which parts of this land for certain (and considering I have zero funds)? Secondly, what sort of mechanism might there be to try and make sure the cost is shared, my part of it being likely less than 20%? I've tried to get my head around this but there are a confusion of suggestions and my brain isn't what it was!

I’d start with a search on Land Registry by map, rather than address. Follow this link: https://www.land-search-online.co.uk/portal/land-ownership.asp?search=single-plot-of-land&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7KqZBhCBARIsAI-fTKLN8yebqEtQ-FphHB3-y8OpOZC7eLXsoP9i2d-9F_QedCHXiRfXgA0aAkhsEALw_wcB

if that fails then the local council may be able to help.

Thrak

silvercar said:

Thrak said:

I'm facing an issue where I have no idea where to start. I'm hoping to sell soon but there is land adjoining mine which has become overgrown with weeds which has now affected what appears to be, according to title plans, land of a few more properties as well as my own. Given that this land seems to be a grey area in terms of ownership I fear that I may be left having to pay for it to be cleared, as the person who it is affecting the most. Firstly, how might I confirm who owns which parts of this land for certain (and considering I have zero funds)? Secondly, what sort of mechanism might there be to try and make sure the cost is shared, my part of it being likely less than 20%? I've tried to get my head around this but there are a confusion of suggestions and my brain isn't what it was!

I’d start with a search on Land Registry by map, rather than address. Follow this link: https://www.land-search-online.co.uk/portal/land-ownership.asp?search=single-plot-of-land&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7KqZBhCBARIsAI-fTKLN8yebqEtQ-FphHB3-y8OpOZC7eLXsoP9i2d-9F_QedCHXiRfXgA0aAkhsEALw_wcB

if that fails then the local council may be able to help.

I've used the map and got the title plans for the whole area. It gives all surrounding properties a portion each but also leaves a chunk of it without any owner. They say themselves it's not precise and I can see why. It's just past the end of a road so the council won't help, I'll go back to them but they were very much 'too busy, not our problem', so not expecting anything from that quarter.

Land_Registry

buyinghouse said:

Hello @Land_Registry ,

We are purchasing a house which has a charge to it, it has taken a long time due to the seller and their solicitor having issues locating the creditor (originally Egg Banking plc). The creditor was tracked down finally last week, they have given a redemption figure and they have sent B4 to Land Registry and requested that this is expedited, Land Registry have raised a requisition today which the solicitor is dealing with. 

What time scale should we expect here? 

Our mortgage offer expires on the 4th Oct and we need to exchange contracts by the 26th Sept to meet our buyer's mortgage company's requirements so time is running out here. 

Many thanks in advance. 

Impossible to be definitive as ball is in solicitor’s court it seems. I assume it can be sorted quickly so if it can then we can usually finish it quickly too assuming the resolution doesn’t require more 

Land_Registry

Thrak said:

silvercar said:

Thrak said:

I'm facing an issue where I have no idea where to start. I'm hoping to sell soon but there is land adjoining mine which has become overgrown with weeds which has now affected what appears to be, according to title plans, land of a few more properties as well as my own. Given that this land seems to be a grey area in terms of ownership I fear that I may be left having to pay for it to be cleared, as the person who it is affecting the most. Firstly, how might I confirm who owns which parts of this land for certain (and considering I have zero funds)? Secondly, what sort of mechanism might there be to try and make sure the cost is shared, my part of it being likely less than 20%? I've tried to get my head around this but there are a confusion of suggestions and my brain isn't what it was!

I’d start with a search on Land Registry by map, rather than address. Follow this link: https://www.land-search-online.co.uk/portal/land-ownership.asp?search=single-plot-of-land&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7KqZBhCBARIsAI-fTKLN8yebqEtQ-FphHB3-y8OpOZC7eLXsoP9i2d-9F_QedCHXiRfXgA0aAkhsEALw_wcB

if that fails then the local council may be able to help.

I've used the map and got the title plans for the whole area. It gives all surrounding properties a portion each but also leaves a chunk of it without any owner. They say themselves it's not precise and I can see why. It's just past the end of a road so the council won't help, I'll go back to them but they were very much 'too busy, not our problem', so not expecting anything from that quarter.

The chunk is I assume unregistered rather than unowned. All land is owned but not all is registered. 

If you are selling then the priority would usually be ensuring the general boundaries for your own title match the reality on the ground. 

If you are looking to do ‘more’ then always good to discuss with neighbouring owners as best you can. But the unregistered part should always be approached with care, unless your activity triggers the unregistered owner to be revealed 

Thrak

Land_Registry said:

Thrak said:

silvercar said:

Thrak said:

I'm facing an issue where I have no idea where to start. I'm hoping to sell soon but there is land adjoining mine which has become overgrown with weeds which has now affected what appears to be, according to title plans, land of a few more properties as well as my own. Given that this land seems to be a grey area in terms of ownership I fear that I may be left having to pay for it to be cleared, as the person who it is affecting the most. Firstly, how might I confirm who owns which parts of this land for certain (and considering I have zero funds)? Secondly, what sort of mechanism might there be to try and make sure the cost is shared, my part of it being likely less than 20%? I've tried to get my head around this but there are a confusion of suggestions and my brain isn't what it was!

I’d start with a search on Land Registry by map, rather than address. Follow this link: https://www.land-search-online.co.uk/portal/land-ownership.asp?search=single-plot-of-land&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7KqZBhCBARIsAI-fTKLN8yebqEtQ-FphHB3-y8OpOZC7eLXsoP9i2d-9F_QedCHXiRfXgA0aAkhsEALw_wcB

if that fails then the local council may be able to help.

I've used the map and got the title plans for the whole area. It gives all surrounding properties a portion each but also leaves a chunk of it without any owner. They say themselves it's not precise and I can see why. It's just past the end of a road so the council won't help, I'll go back to them but they were very much 'too busy, not our problem', so not expecting anything from that quarter.

The chunk is I assume unregistered rather than unowned. All land is owned but not all is registered. 

If you are selling then the priority would usually be ensuring the general boundaries for your own title match the reality on the ground. 

If you are looking to do ‘more’ then always good to discuss with neighbouring owners as best you can. But the unregistered part should always be approached with care, unless your activity triggers the unregistered owner to be revealed 

Thanks. I won't sell until it's sorted, nobody's going to buy a place where weeds are now starting to block off a garage, having already rendered a path unusable. Two of the adjoining properties don't care because they have a wall blocking it, another won't because it's barely visible. They are leaving it so that I will do it, and I honestly can't afford it, especially with the energy, inflation etc. Are there any organisations that help to clear land for those without the funds? Bit of a forlorn hope, I know.

If I have concrete evidence that this is not my land I can maybe get some assistance. Where do I go to find who actually does own it? Maps that are described as not likely to be accurate just won't cut it if they can avoid responsibility. At least something definite that shows the land is shared would help, surely some record of that is kept somewhere?

silvercar

Thrak said:

Land_Registry said:

Thrak said:

silvercar said:

Thrak said:

I'm facing an issue where I have no idea where to start. I'm hoping to sell soon but there is land adjoining mine which has become overgrown with weeds which has now affected what appears to be, according to title plans, land of a few more properties as well as my own. Given that this land seems to be a grey area in terms of ownership I fear that I may be left having to pay for it to be cleared, as the person who it is affecting the most. Firstly, how might I confirm who owns which parts of this land for certain (and considering I have zero funds)? Secondly, what sort of mechanism might there be to try and make sure the cost is shared, my part of it being likely less than 20%? I've tried to get my head around this but there are a confusion of suggestions and my brain isn't what it was!

I’d start with a search on Land Registry by map, rather than address. Follow this link: https://www.land-search-online.co.uk/portal/land-ownership.asp?search=single-plot-of-land&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7KqZBhCBARIsAI-fTKLN8yebqEtQ-FphHB3-y8OpOZC7eLXsoP9i2d-9F_QedCHXiRfXgA0aAkhsEALw_wcB

if that fails then the local council may be able to help.

I've used the map and got the title plans for the whole area. It gives all surrounding properties a portion each but also leaves a chunk of it without any owner. They say themselves it's not precise and I can see why. It's just past the end of a road so the council won't help, I'll go back to them but they were very much 'too busy, not our problem', so not expecting anything from that quarter.

The chunk is I assume unregistered rather than unowned. All land is owned but not all is registered. 

If you are selling then the priority would usually be ensuring the general boundaries for your own title match the reality on the ground. 

If you are looking to do ‘more’ then always good to discuss with neighbouring owners as best you can. But the unregistered part should always be approached with care, unless your activity triggers the unregistered owner to be revealed 

Thanks. I won't sell until it's sorted, nobody's going to buy a place where weeds are now starting to block off a garage, having already rendered a path unusable. Two of the adjoining properties don't care because they have a wall blocking it, another won't because it's barely visible. They are leaving it so that I will do it, and I honestly can't afford it, especially with the energy, inflation etc. Are there any organisations that help to clear land for those without the funds? Bit of a forlorn hope, I know.

If I have concrete evidence that this is not my land I can maybe get some assistance. Where do I go to find who actually does own it? Maps that are described as not likely to be accurate just won't cut it if they can avoid responsibility. At least something definite that shows the land is shared would help, surely some record of that is kept somewhere?

I would try involving a local councillor. If it is effecting the use of your own land then it may be a situation of trespassing. Are there any local history groups who may know the original owners. It could be that originally the council/ a local landowner or estate/ a church owned the land and it was sold off piecemeal leaving this piece behind. There may be local charities who would offer to clear the land as an environmental project eg making an open space open to wildlife/ bees/ butterflies etc