Land Registry questions

alexwyman1989

Land_Registry said:

alexwyman1989 said:

Good Morning,

I was hoping you could help or provide advice as we are having issues with Land Registry with regards to our house remortgage. 

We purchased our freehold and this was submitted by our solicitor to HMLR mid September of last year I believe. 

We are trying to remortgage but the lender has said that the register needs to be updated before they can agree to the mortgage. 

We then asked our solicitor to raise an expedition using our mortgage offer (31/3/22) as evidence but we are already moved on to variable rate now as it is. 

The response to the expedition was that this could not be processed any quicker due to developer of our estate having lots of records to update and that had to be in a certain order. 

Our land registry title is: YY77176

and the registry title for the estate is YY49275

Were quite stuck now and really dont want to be stuck on a variable rate for an extended period of time. Is there any advice you can give on what else we can do or how long it could take, our solicitor didnt know the potential duration when asked.

Many thanks for your help. 

As you state it’s a very busy development with a wide variety of prior applications pending all of which should normally be processed ahead of your own. 

It’s not been expedited, which is odd if requested as it could be but not processed as quickly as you/we might like 
There’s nothing you/your conveyancer can do directly at this stage but if it’s not in order the ball lands back in their court. 

I’ll see if I can get a better steer from casework colleagues as to whether there a path they can pick to try and get it processed sooner than current timescales suggest 
Please bear with me 

Thanks for your fast response. 

Is there any other reason why the request for expedition could have been refused, i.e lack of information / evidence?

As I say our solicitor/conveyancer advised the official response was because of the order HMLR have to follow.

It seems odd to us too, as we thought the whole purpose of the expedite process was to help avoid delays to a potential transaction / re-mortgage.  

Thank you for looking into this further it is much appreciated!

Kind Regards

Land_Registry

alexwyman1989 said:

Land_Registry said:

alexwyman1989 said:

Good Morning,

I was hoping you could help or provide advice as we are having issues with Land Registry with regards to our house remortgage. 

We purchased our freehold and this was submitted by our solicitor to HMLR mid September of last year I believe. 

We are trying to remortgage but the lender has said that the register needs to be updated before they can agree to the mortgage. 

We then asked our solicitor to raise an expedition using our mortgage offer (31/3/22) as evidence but we are already moved on to variable rate now as it is. 

The response to the expedition was that this could not be processed any quicker due to developer of our estate having lots of records to update and that had to be in a certain order. 

Our land registry title is: YY77176

and the registry title for the estate is YY49275

Were quite stuck now and really dont want to be stuck on a variable rate for an extended period of time. Is there any advice you can give on what else we can do or how long it could take, our solicitor didnt know the potential duration when asked.

Many thanks for your help. 

As you state it’s a very busy development with a wide variety of prior applications pending all of which should normally be processed ahead of your own. 

It’s not been expedited, which is odd if requested as it could be but not processed as quickly as you/we might like 
There’s nothing you/your conveyancer can do directly at this stage but if it’s not in order the ball lands back in their court. 

I’ll see if I can get a better steer from casework colleagues as to whether there a path they can pick to try and get it processed sooner than current timescales suggest 
Please bear with me 

Thanks for your fast response. 

Is there any other reason why the request for expedition could have been refused, i.e lack of information / evidence?

As I say our solicitor/conveyancer advised the official response was because of the order HMLR have to follow.

It seems odd to us too, as we thought the whole purpose of the expedite process was to help avoid delays to a potential transaction / re-mortgage.  

Thank you for looking into this further it is much appreciated!

Kind Regards

Expedition, if approved, reduces the initial wait time. What it doesn’t do is waive all the registration requirements, including any applications already lodged and affecting/having priority over your one. 

Priority isn’t all about when submitted but more about what impact it may have on the seller’s title and therefore your own purchase. Invariably none but if you’ve got 50+ prior applications to consider then there will be delays and a single expedition will find it extremely hard to progress quickly compared to if it was the only one to consider 

alexwyman1989

Land_Registry said:

alexwyman1989 said:

Land_Registry said:

alexwyman1989 said:

Good Morning,

I was hoping you could help or provide advice as we are having issues with Land Registry with regards to our house remortgage. 

We purchased our freehold and this was submitted by our solicitor to HMLR mid September of last year I believe. 

We are trying to remortgage but the lender has said that the register needs to be updated before they can agree to the mortgage. 

We then asked our solicitor to raise an expedition using our mortgage offer (31/3/22) as evidence but we are already moved on to variable rate now as it is. 

The response to the expedition was that this could not be processed any quicker due to developer of our estate having lots of records to update and that had to be in a certain order. 

Our land registry title is: YY77176

and the registry title for the estate is YY49275

Were quite stuck now and really dont want to be stuck on a variable rate for an extended period of time. Is there any advice you can give on what else we can do or how long it could take, our solicitor didnt know the potential duration when asked.

Many thanks for your help. 

As you state it’s a very busy development with a wide variety of prior applications pending all of which should normally be processed ahead of your own. 

It’s not been expedited, which is odd if requested as it could be but not processed as quickly as you/we might like 
There’s nothing you/your conveyancer can do directly at this stage but if it’s not in order the ball lands back in their court. 

I’ll see if I can get a better steer from casework colleagues as to whether there a path they can pick to try and get it processed sooner than current timescales suggest 
Please bear with me 

Thanks for your fast response. 

Is there any other reason why the request for expedition could have been refused, i.e lack of information / evidence?

As I say our solicitor/conveyancer advised the official response was because of the order HMLR have to follow.

It seems odd to us too, as we thought the whole purpose of the expedite process was to help avoid delays to a potential transaction / re-mortgage.  

Thank you for looking into this further it is much appreciated!

Kind Regards

Expedition, if approved, reduces the initial wait time. What it doesn’t do is waive all the registration requirements, including any applications already lodged and affecting/having priority over your one. 

Priority isn’t all about when submitted but more about what impact it may have on the seller’s title and therefore your own purchase. Invariably none but if you’ve got 50+ prior applications to consider then there will be delays and a single expedition will find it extremely hard to progress quickly compared to if it was the only one to consider 

Ok, thank you for the explanation of the process. 

"I’ll see if I can get a better steer from casework colleagues as to whether there a path they can pick to try and get it processed sooner than current timescales suggest 
Please bear with me" 

With regards the above, we appreciate any further information / advice you can provide from the case holder and if like you say there is any other path that could be used to assist. And failing that is there a rough estimate on how long it may take from now for us, considering 'what place we are in the queue'. 

Again many thanks for your assistance. 

alexwyman1989

alexwyman1989 said:

Land_Registry said:

alexwyman1989 said:

Land_Registry said:

alexwyman1989 said:

Good Morning,

I was hoping you could help or provide advice as we are having issues with Land Registry with regards to our house remortgage. 

We purchased our freehold and this was submitted by our solicitor to HMLR mid September of last year I believe. 

We are trying to remortgage but the lender has said that the register needs to be updated before they can agree to the mortgage. 

We then asked our solicitor to raise an expedition using our mortgage offer (31/3/22) as evidence but we are already moved on to variable rate now as it is. 

The response to the expedition was that this could not be processed any quicker due to developer of our estate having lots of records to update and that had to be in a certain order. 

Our land registry title is: YY77176

and the registry title for the estate is YY49275

Were quite stuck now and really dont want to be stuck on a variable rate for an extended period of time. Is there any advice you can give on what else we can do or how long it could take, our solicitor didnt know the potential duration when asked.

Many thanks for your help. 

As you state it’s a very busy development with a wide variety of prior applications pending all of which should normally be processed ahead of your own. 

It’s not been expedited, which is odd if requested as it could be but not processed as quickly as you/we might like 
There’s nothing you/your conveyancer can do directly at this stage but if it’s not in order the ball lands back in their court. 

I’ll see if I can get a better steer from casework colleagues as to whether there a path they can pick to try and get it processed sooner than current timescales suggest 
Please bear with me 

Thanks for your fast response. 

Is there any other reason why the request for expedition could have been refused, i.e lack of information / evidence?

As I say our solicitor/conveyancer advised the official response was because of the order HMLR have to follow.

It seems odd to us too, as we thought the whole purpose of the expedite process was to help avoid delays to a potential transaction / re-mortgage.  

Thank you for looking into this further it is much appreciated!

Kind Regards

Expedition, if approved, reduces the initial wait time. What it doesn’t do is waive all the registration requirements, including any applications already lodged and affecting/having priority over your one. 

Priority isn’t all about when submitted but more about what impact it may have on the seller’s title and therefore your own purchase. Invariably none but if you’ve got 50+ prior applications to consider then there will be delays and a single expedition will find it extremely hard to progress quickly compared to if it was the only one to consider 

Ok, thank you for the explanation of the process. 

"I’ll see if I can get a better steer from casework colleagues as to whether there a path they can pick to try and get it processed sooner than current timescales suggest 
Please bear with me" 

With regards the above, we appreciate any further information / advice you can provide from the case holder and if like you say there is any other path that could be used to assist. And failing that is there a rough estimate on how long it may take from now for us, considering 'what place we are in the queue'. 

Again many thanks for your assistance. 

I have pressed for more information from our solicitor which may help you with your caseworker colleagues.

It seems the latest correspondence was that there was an error with the application originally 'wrong application type was selected when submitting through the portal. "Document Registration" was selected instead of "transfer of part" ' but instead of cancelling the registration it has been amended by HMRL 'in order not to lose it's priority'.

We have been provided a new case number 'YY163078' if this will help to get more information from the caseworker. I'm now wondering if a response (or rejection) to this original request to expedite has actually been made and that we need to raise a new expedition request, (i have requested our solicitor/conveyancer to do this), against the new title.

But like you say even so, even if an expedition request is accepted, this may mean that it might still not be processed in the 10 days but just move us up the priority list for the sellers title. 

Again as always we are thankful for your help and assistance.
 

homeless9

Land_Registry said:

homeless9 said:

Hi Land Registry.

I purchased a new build property in April 2020. 4 new builds were built in a 'cluster', all were sold between approximately November 2019 and August 2020....

My property sale price was listed on the Land Registry's website within 2 months of the sale and my property was the 3rd property that sold....

It is now over 2 years since the first property sold and none of the other 3 properties sale price information has appeared on the Land Registry website.

I understand that sometimes transactions are excluded if the sale was for a part or a share of a property, sale of right-to-buy properties, transfers following divorce or by way of gift or exchange. None of these apply to these properties.

What would be the reason why these 3 properties aren't appearing? Is there anything you can do to get this data and add it to your website if I pass on the addresses?

Sorry for my analogy, but it feels like I am the only one naked at the nudist beach with them being able to see what I paid for the same identical property, but myself not being able to see what they paid.

If you think something is wrong with the data then you can check what’s exempted and report an error 
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/price-paid-data-downloads#accuracy-of-the-data
NB - the change a sales record link is broken so I have reported that. It should be repaired today 
If you don’t wish to wait then please use our contact form instead 
https://customerhelp.landregistry.gov.uk/guide-page-external/?stepid=2b31bc48-eb96-eb11-b1ac-002248413956

I filled out one of these forms approximately 5 months ago and again 1 month ago. The 3 houses in question have still not been listed on the land registry sold prices page....

Those forms also ask specifically for the price the property sold for and the date, which is information I do not have. Do you enter data based on what members of the public send you in these forms? seems a potentially inaccurate way of doing things as anyone can fill out these forms...

Where would the Land Registry typically get the sold house price information from? a solicitor? Can't someone at the Land Registry find out the sale price information themselves for these properties if I just gave them the 3 addresses?

Land_Registry

homeless9 said:

Land_Registry said:

homeless9 said:

Hi Land Registry.

I purchased a new build property in April 2020. 4 new builds were built in a 'cluster', all were sold between approximately November 2019 and August 2020....

My property sale price was listed on the Land Registry's website within 2 months of the sale and my property was the 3rd property that sold....

It is now over 2 years since the first property sold and none of the other 3 properties sale price information has appeared on the Land Registry website.

I understand that sometimes transactions are excluded if the sale was for a part or a share of a property, sale of right-to-buy properties, transfers following divorce or by way of gift or exchange. None of these apply to these properties.

What would be the reason why these 3 properties aren't appearing? Is there anything you can do to get this data and add it to your website if I pass on the addresses?

Sorry for my analogy, but it feels like I am the only one naked at the nudist beach with them being able to see what I paid for the same identical property, but myself not being able to see what they paid.

If you think something is wrong with the data then you can check what’s exempted and report an error 
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/price-paid-data-downloads#accuracy-of-the-data
NB - the change a sales record link is broken so I have reported that. It should be repaired today 
If you don’t wish to wait then please use our contact form instead 
https://customerhelp.landregistry.gov.uk/guide-page-external/?stepid=2b31bc48-eb96-eb11-b1ac-002248413956

I filled out one of these forms approximately 5 months ago and again 1 month ago. The 3 houses in question have still not been listed on the land registry sold prices page....

Those forms also ask specifically for the price the property sold for and the date, which is information I do not have. Do you enter data based on what members of the public send you in these forms? seems a potentially inaccurate way of doing things as anyone can fill out these forms...

Where would the Land Registry typically get the sold house price information from? a solicitor? Can't someone at the Land Registry find out the sale price information themselves for these properties if I just gave them the 3 addresses?

No, we enter the price paid data based on what’s submitted so the legal deed (transfer) and application form 
There can be reasons why some purchases don’t appear whilst others do and of course you can’t be sure that the other purchases were the same as any other sale/purchase. 

Suggest you try the contact form and ask why yours appears and they’re ones don’t 

homeless9

Land_Registry said:

homeless9 said:

Land_Registry said:

homeless9 said:

Hi Land Registry.

I purchased a new build property in April 2020. 4 new builds were built in a 'cluster', all were sold between approximately November 2019 and August 2020....

My property sale price was listed on the Land Registry's website within 2 months of the sale and my property was the 3rd property that sold....

It is now over 2 years since the first property sold and none of the other 3 properties sale price information has appeared on the Land Registry website.

I understand that sometimes transactions are excluded if the sale was for a part or a share of a property, sale of right-to-buy properties, transfers following divorce or by way of gift or exchange. None of these apply to these properties.

What would be the reason why these 3 properties aren't appearing? Is there anything you can do to get this data and add it to your website if I pass on the addresses?

Sorry for my analogy, but it feels like I am the only one naked at the nudist beach with them being able to see what I paid for the same identical property, but myself not being able to see what they paid.

If you think something is wrong with the data then you can check what’s exempted and report an error 
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/price-paid-data-downloads#accuracy-of-the-data
NB - the change a sales record link is broken so I have reported that. It should be repaired today 
If you don’t wish to wait then please use our contact form instead 
https://customerhelp.landregistry.gov.uk/guide-page-external/?stepid=2b31bc48-eb96-eb11-b1ac-002248413956

I filled out one of these forms approximately 5 months ago and again 1 month ago. The 3 houses in question have still not been listed on the land registry sold prices page....

Those forms also ask specifically for the price the property sold for and the date, which is information I do not have. Do you enter data based on what members of the public send you in these forms? seems a potentially inaccurate way of doing things as anyone can fill out these forms...

Where would the Land Registry typically get the sold house price information from? a solicitor? Can't someone at the Land Registry find out the sale price information themselves for these properties if I just gave them the 3 addresses?

No, we enter the price paid data based on what’s submitted so the legal deed (transfer) and application form 
There can be reasons why some purchases don’t appear whilst others do and of course you can’t be sure that the other purchases were the same as any other sale/purchase. 

Suggest you try the contact form and ask why yours appears and they’re ones don’t 

There should be no reason why the others do not appear.

Weirdly one appeared about a year ago, was there for 2 weeks, then disappeared never to return.

Land Registry do not do anything with these contact forms....I have done 2 now!

2 years on and only mine is listed. It feels like I am the only one naked at the nudist beach.

Land_Registry

What were your enquiry references? 

Nellie15

Hi just a quick question .

I am current completing a FR 1 form for my a property my OH has inherited. I am also completing an AS1 form. Do I pay 2 sets of fees? 

I am the executor and Probate has been passed etc. 

Thanks 

Trooper21

Hi

We have an estimated response date of the 26th January for an AP1 request filed in September. This was done via the portal with mt Solicitor.

Is this likely to be delayed at all? Generally - are these dates met?

Will we get an informed response to the request regarding any information in relation to why this part of land has been unregistered from yourselves?