Land Registry questions

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Nellie15 said:

Hi just a quick question .

I am current completing a FR 1 form for my a property my OH has inherited. I am also completing an AS1 form. Do I pay 2 sets of fees? 

I am the executor and Probate has been passed etc. 

Thanks 

No. One fee for the first registration payable using Scale 1 on the current market value of the property 

Land_Registry

Trooper21 said:

Hi

We have an estimated response date of the 26th January for an AP1 request filed in September. This was done via the portal with mt Solicitor.

Is this likely to be delayed at all? Generally - are these dates met?

Will we get an informed response to the request regarding any information in relation to why this part of land has been unregistered from yourselves?

It’s an estimate only based on hundreds of thousands of completed applications and time taken. 

Your second Q suggests it’s not an ordinary sale/purchase but something different re the (un)registered extent. So it’s not run if the mill and as such may well wait and then take longer depending on what’s required. 

If the application fails for any reason you’ll be told why. If it’s successful then you simply get the new registered information 
If you’ve used a conveyancer they should be able to answer your Qs as they have the detail to do so. 

Land_Registry

Land_Registry said:

alexwyman1989 said:

Good Morning,

I was hoping you could help or provide advice as we are having issues with Land Registry with regards to our house remortgage. 

We purchased our freehold and this was submitted by our solicitor to HMLR mid September of last year I believe. 

We are trying to remortgage but the lender has said that the register needs to be updated before they can agree to the mortgage. 

We then asked our solicitor to raise an expedition using our mortgage offer (31/3/22) as evidence but we are already moved on to variable rate now as it is. 

The response to the expedition was that this could not be processed any quicker due to developer of our estate having lots of records to update and that had to be in a certain order. 

Our land registry title is: YY77176

and the registry title for the estate is YY49275

Were quite stuck now and really dont want to be stuck on a variable rate for an extended period of time. Is there any advice you can give on what else we can do or how long it could take, our solicitor didnt know the potential duration when asked.

Many thanks for your help. 

As you state it’s a very busy development with a wide variety of prior applications pending all of which should normally be processed ahead of your own. 

It’s not been expedited, which is odd if requested as it could be but not processed as quickly as you/we might like 
There’s nothing you/your conveyancer can do directly at this stage but if it’s not in order the ball lands back in their court. 

I’ll see if I can get a better steer from casework colleagues as to whether there a path they can pick to try and get it processed sooner than current timescales suggest 
Please bear with me 

Hopefully things can move positively forward re your application. It should be considered within the next 5-10 days. If there’s an issue re the quality of the submission then your conveyancer will be made aware. 

Feel free to post again early next week and I can check for an update as best I can 

Trooper21

Land_Registry said:

Trooper21 said:

Hi

We have an estimated response date of the 26th January for an AP1 request filed in September. This was done via the portal with mt Solicitor.

Is this likely to be delayed at all? Generally - are these dates met?

Will we get an informed response to the request regarding any information in relation to why this part of land has been unregistered from yourselves?

It’s an estimate only based on hundreds of thousands of completed applications and time taken. 

Your second Q suggests it’s not an ordinary sale/purchase but something different re the (un)registered extent. So it’s not run if the mill and as such may well wait and then take longer depending on what’s required. 

If the application fails for any reason you’ll be told why. If it’s successful then you simply get the new registered information 
If you’ve used a conveyancer they should be able to answer your Qs as they have the detail to d

Thanks, Will we be advised of the longer timescale at all? Will the application update with another eta?

Initially we thought Mid November for a September submission and then got this date online.

Land_Registry

Trooper21 said:

Land_Registry said:

Trooper21 said:

Hi

We have an estimated response date of the 26th January for an AP1 request filed in September. This was done via the portal with mt Solicitor.

Is this likely to be delayed at all? Generally - are these dates met?

Will we get an informed response to the request regarding any information in relation to why this part of land has been unregistered from yourselves?

It’s an estimate only based on hundreds of thousands of completed applications and time taken. 

Your second Q suggests it’s not an ordinary sale/purchase but something different re the (un)registered extent. So it’s not run if the mill and as such may well wait and then take longer depending on what’s required. 

If the application fails for any reason you’ll be told why. If it’s successful then you simply get the new registered information 
If you’ve used a conveyancer they should be able to answer your Qs as they have the detail to d

Thanks, Will we be advised of the longer timescale at all? Will the application update with another eta?

Initially we thought Mid November for a September submission and then got this date online.

The information updates each time your conveyancer asks. They can check online 
Wait times have been lengthy for some time now but rarely do they matter to the end client (you) as you became the legal owner on say completion. Updating the register finalises everything but whether that takes 1 day, 1 week, 1 month or longer has no impact on you
If it does then there’s an expedite process to help in urgent cases 

homeless9

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homeless9 said:

Hi Land Registry.

I purchased a new build property in April 2020. 4 new builds were built in a 'cluster', all were sold between approximately November 2019 and August 2020....

My property sale price was listed on the Land Registry's website within 2 months of the sale and my property was the 3rd property that sold....

It is now over 2 years since the first property sold and none of the other 3 properties sale price information has appeared on the Land Registry website.

I understand that sometimes transactions are excluded if the sale was for a part or a share of a property, sale of right-to-buy properties, transfers following divorce or by way of gift or exchange. None of these apply to these properties.

What would be the reason why these 3 properties aren't appearing? Is there anything you can do to get this data and add it to your website if I pass on the addresses?

Sorry for my analogy, but it feels like I am the only one naked at the nudist beach with them being able to see what I paid for the same identical property, but myself not being able to see what they paid.

If you think something is wrong with the data then you can check what’s exempted and report an error 
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/price-paid-data-downloads#accuracy-of-the-data
NB - the change a sales record link is broken so I have reported that. It should be repaired today 
If you don’t wish to wait then please use our contact form instead 
https://customerhelp.landregistry.gov.uk/guide-page-external/?stepid=2b31bc48-eb96-eb11-b1ac-002248413956

Hi Land Registry,

We spoke the other day about sale price data not appearing on the land registry website after 2 years have passed. 4 new builds in question, one of them mine, my house price data is there, the other 3 houses not.

I emailed the Land Registry about this and I got this reply....

We are unable to add the sales referred to as the sales documentation has not yet been received at HM Land Registry. We are unable to record sales in advance of receipt of sales documentation.

The entry showing against 44a was cancelled from our online sales data last year however this is still appearing in our online sales data and this has been requested to be removed. This can take up to 2 months to be reflected in our online sales data.

The price paid data will be reconsidered when the sales documentation is re submitted.

My Questions to you:

1. Who sends the sales documentation over to the Land Registry, do the solicitors send this? if so, it's odd that 3 different solicitors haven't sent this information over.

2. The entry of 44a is my property. They are saying the entry was cancelled from their data, but has not been removed yet. What do they mean it's been cancelled from their data and has been requested to be removed? Why are entries removed and who can request this?

3. I noticed one of the other properties was listed about a year ago and within 2 weeks it disappeared never to return.

Thanks.

Land_Registry

homeless9 said:

Land_Registry said:

homeless9 said:

Hi Land Registry.

I purchased a new build property in April 2020. 4 new builds were built in a 'cluster', all were sold between approximately November 2019 and August 2020....

My property sale price was listed on the Land Registry's website within 2 months of the sale and my property was the 3rd property that sold....

It is now over 2 years since the first property sold and none of the other 3 properties sale price information has appeared on the Land Registry website.

I understand that sometimes transactions are excluded if the sale was for a part or a share of a property, sale of right-to-buy properties, transfers following divorce or by way of gift or exchange. None of these apply to these properties.

What would be the reason why these 3 properties aren't appearing? Is there anything you can do to get this data and add it to your website if I pass on the addresses?

Sorry for my analogy, but it feels like I am the only one naked at the nudist beach with them being able to see what I paid for the same identical property, but myself not being able to see what they paid.

If you think something is wrong with the data then you can check what’s exempted and report an error 
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/price-paid-data-downloads#accuracy-of-the-data
NB - the change a sales record link is broken so I have reported that. It should be repaired today 
If you don’t wish to wait then please use our contact form instead 
https://customerhelp.landregistry.gov.uk/guide-page-external/?stepid=2b31bc48-eb96-eb11-b1ac-002248413956

Hi Land Registry,

We spoke the other day about sale price data not appearing on the land registry website after 2 years have passed. 4 new builds in question, one of them mine, my house price data is there, the other 3 houses not.

I emailed the Land Registry about this and I got this reply....

We are unable to add the sales referred to as the sales documentation has not yet been received at HM Land Registry. We are unable to record sales in advance of receipt of sales documentation.

The entry showing against 44a was cancelled from our online sales data last year however this is still appearing in our online sales data and this has been requested to be removed. This can take up to 2 months to be reflected in our online sales data.

The price paid data will be reconsidered when the sales documentation is re submitted.

My Questions to you:

1. Who sends the sales documentation over to the Land Registry, do the solicitors send this? if so, it's odd that 3 different solicitors haven't sent this information over.

2. The entry of 44a is my property. They are saying the entry was cancelled from their data, but has not been removed yet. What do they mean it's been cancelled from their data and has been requested to be removed? Why are entries removed and who can request this?

3. I noticed one of the other properties was listed about a year ago and within 2 weeks it disappeared never to return.

Thanks.

1. The purchaser’s solicitor lodges the application. If they did but it was rejected/cancelled for some reason then they need to resubmit. It can happen so nothing odd other than lengthy timescale to do so 
2. We can remove data if it should not have been included - see exemptions. However the data updates in monthly cycles so it can be a 2 month wait depending on when the removal was made
3. There are reasons why that can happen as explained 

KiKi

Land_Registry said:

KiKi said:

Land_Registry said:

KiKi said:

Hi there, I moved at the end of October.  I am remortgaging, and all approved, but when their legal team obtained a copy of the land registry (back in November), it was still registered to the previous owners.  The legal team have said "we'll wait for you to confirm you're now registered as the owner" but I'm not sure how I'd know.  Will I be notified when I'm registered?  How long should it take?  I don't want my mortgage offer to expire because I'm not yet the registered owner of the property!  
Apologies if these questions are obvious, but the LR stuff is new to me.
KiKi

If it was lodged in November it’s unlikely to be considered for several weeks. You or your conveyancer should request expedition to reduce that wait time so as not to miss your offer expiring 
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-an-expedite

Thank you - it was lodged at the end of October.  My re-mortgage deal expires in May, do you think it's like to be completed by then?  Thank you for the link to expedite.

I’d expect it to be processed before the offer expires. However better to request expedition than wait and find there’s a delay for any reason 

Just to say thanks - my solicitor requested expedition on Monday and the LR processed it the same day, so it's all sorted now.

Land_Registry

KiKi said:

Land_Registry said:

KiKi said:

Land_Registry said:

KiKi said:

Hi there, I moved at the end of October.  I am remortgaging, and all approved, but when their legal team obtained a copy of the land registry (back in November), it was still registered to the previous owners.  The legal team have said "we'll wait for you to confirm you're now registered as the owner" but I'm not sure how I'd know.  Will I be notified when I'm registered?  How long should it take?  I don't want my mortgage offer to expire because I'm not yet the registered owner of the property!  
Apologies if these questions are obvious, but the LR stuff is new to me.
KiKi

If it was lodged in November it’s unlikely to be considered for several weeks. You or your conveyancer should request expedition to reduce that wait time so as not to miss your offer expiring 
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/request-an-expedite

Thank you - it was lodged at the end of October.  My re-mortgage deal expires in May, do you think it's like to be completed by then?  Thank you for the link to expedite.

I’d expect it to be processed before the offer expires. However better to request expedition than wait and find there’s a delay for any reason 

Just to say thanks - my solicitor requested expedition on Monday and the LR processed it the same day, so it's all sorted now.

That’s great news. Hopefully things move forward quickly and positively from here for you 

Marvel123

Land_Registry said:

Marvel123 said:

this is a boundry question
-we are in an end terrace house that the side wall of the house has a managed grass area 
-as per the deeds for our house the red line is around the outside side wall of the house with a black line around the red line
- the deeds for the managed grass area shows  a red line also inside a black line 
- we are freehold house with a management org attached as per our deeds ( have both copies of title / deeds

what I am trying to establish is whether the boundry of our house on the ground is alongside the side wall of our house or is it within the shared black line of the managed  area ?
we want to put a small 30cm stone border alongside the side of our house and believe we are in our rights to do so, the management  org say no as the land is theirs - as we share the black I'm thinking as there is no physical feature on the ground we couod do this - or are the management org correct and in theory could build a storage area on our outside wall

Not something we can clarify for you I’m afraid and very much something only you and the MC can resolve between you as adjoining landowners 
As a general comment your title plan will show your general boundaries. And if that’s inside the solid black line it seems highly unlikely you own land the other side of the black line
If I’ve understood correctly you are suggesting the land in question is under the black line. However a solid black line defines a physical feature over a foot in height so it wouldn’t be something you’d put a stone border on.

yes the land in question is this overlapping black line. as you said it represents something over a foot in height and currently it is just grass alongside exterior wall of our house am I correct in thinking that it couod have hedges there previously - as most other houses on estate have hedging where the black line is