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  • jweb2k
    jweb2k Posts: 357 Forumite
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    Thank you! 
  • How concerned should I be if the Land Registry website doesn’t have the documents for a property I’m interested in buying? 
    There is a listing for the property on the website, but no documents available for download. It was built circa 1970, so not pre-Land Registry. 
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,143 Organisation Representative
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    How concerned should I be if the Land Registry website doesn’t have the documents for a property I’m interested in buying? 
    There is a listing for the property on the website, but no documents available for download. It was built circa 1970, so not pre-Land Registry. 
    Unconcerned - land registration isn’t based on the age of a building as we register the land and not specifically what may be built on it. 
    If there’s no registered information then the seller/agent should be able to confirm, ownership (original deeds) and/or how long the seller has owned it. 
    Compulsory registration for the whole of England & Wales arrived in 1990. So if unregistered still it means in very basic terms that it’s not been sold for at least 30+ years. That’s all. 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • GeorgianaCavendish
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    edited 11 November 2021 at 2:21PM
    How concerned should I be if the Land Registry website doesn’t have the documents for a property I’m interested in buying? 
    There is a listing for the property on the website, but no documents available for download. It was built circa 1970, so not pre-Land Registry. 
    Unconcerned - land registration isn’t based on the age of a building as we register the land and not specifically what may be built on it. 
    If there’s no registered information then the seller/agent should be able to confirm, ownership (original deeds) and/or how long the seller has owned it. 
    Compulsory registration for the whole of England & Wales arrived in 1990. So if unregistered still it means in very basic terms that it’s not been sold for at least 30+ years. That’s all. 
    Thank you! 
    If I may add a follow up question, if it was registered would the documents always be available online?

    The property does show up in the “Find a property - search results” when I search for the postcode, but it says “n/a” next to Tenure, Price Paid/Value Stated Data  and it says “No information available” where I would click the link to see the Purchase Documents online. 
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,143 Organisation Representative
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    How concerned should I be if the Land Registry website doesn’t have the documents for a property I’m interested in buying? 
    There is a listing for the property on the website, but no documents available for download. It was built circa 1970, so not pre-Land Registry. 
    Unconcerned - land registration isn’t based on the age of a building as we register the land and not specifically what may be built on it. 
    If there’s no registered information then the seller/agent should be able to confirm, ownership (original deeds) and/or how long the seller has owned it. 
    Compulsory registration for the whole of England & Wales arrived in 1990. So if unregistered still it means in very basic terms that it’s not been sold for at least 30+ years. That’s all. 
    Thank you! 
    If I may add a follow up question, if it was registered would the documents always be available online?

    The property does show up in the “Find a property - search results” when I search for the postcode, but it says “n/a” next to Tenure, Price Paid/Value Stated Data  and it says “No information available” where I would click the link to see the Purchase Documents online. 
    Yes if the searched criteria matched/is linked to registered information. There’s a small chance it’s not linked behind the scenes. 
    If you use the Map Enquiry option instead then search for it using the map/imagery as well. If nothing again then its 99.99% unregistered
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • I am currently buying a house which has one title deed, within which the register states ‘title absolute/title good leasehold’. It mentions about an 800 year lease from 1772 but no further details of who the leaseholder is as no original lease was submitted and as I said the property is on one title deed….what implications could having this mixed title lead to? And can it be changed/merged to just title absolute freehold going forward? 
  • Hi I’m currently waiting for you to action an expedited request to remove a unilateral notice on title LA464844 and an dangerously close to my offer expiring and being plunged into financial hardship can you please advise of update?
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,143 Organisation Representative
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    I am currently buying a house which has one title deed, within which the register states ‘title absolute/title good leasehold’. It mentions about an 800 year lease from 1772 but no further details of who the leaseholder is as no original lease was submitted and as I said the property is on one title deed….what implications could having this mixed title lead to? And can it be changed/merged to just title absolute freehold going forward? 
    The key with any property is who has legal ownership and what tenure is it. Im assuming you have a property that is part Absolute and part Good Leasehold. As such the key issue is the GL part but what ‘implications’ that has is very much something to get legal advice on 
    Leaseholds can be merged into the superior title but you state that there’s only one title deed   https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/leases-determination
    In the circumstances I’d suggest that you seek legal advice 

    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,143 Organisation Representative
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    Hi I’m currently waiting for you to action an expedited request to remove a unilateral notice on title LA464844 and an dangerously close to my offer expiring and being plunged into financial hardship can you please advise of update?
    Still with us but may not be too far away from being completed. Wrong form lodged initially but that’s been rectified and wider checks started. The beneficiary appears to have responded positively so the case will be reconsidered on that basis. 
    I’d check with your conveyancer Monday to see if done by then 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • ccbrowning
    ccbrowning Posts: 431 Forumite
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    edited 12 November 2021 at 11:56AM
    How long are updates taking now? My solicitor filed the AP1 8 days ago after I remortgaged, to reflect the change of lender. Just asking since we’re selling our home and it could cause some issues I think, later on when it gets nearer to completion. Would just be good to have some possible timescales so my buyer doesn’t freak out.
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