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g24 ticket from b&m Falkirk,Scotland... Help!

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  • waamo
    waamo Posts: 10,298 Forumite
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    I've had an email back from David Dunford with the DVLA and he has confirmed they should not be quoting pofa. He has asked if he can contact g24 using the email evidence I sent him to find out why they are quoting pofa.
    My worry is this will make g24 even more adamant that they will not drop my 'invoice' as I have now caused them issue... ?

    You are worrying that a company telling such big porkies that it may land them in court will continue chasing you after telling such porkies? Really?

    Have you read nothing about the situation in Scotland? Just ignore them and whatever stupid debt collectors they use. Continue to complain and drop them in it.

    Do you really think they will want a pack of lies designed to get money from you being shown to a Sheriff? That would be like a Nigerian scammer suing you for not paying the "transfer fee".
  • TARTANDAISYS
    TARTANDAISYS Posts: 28 Forumite
    edited 16 August 2017 at 4:00PM
    Fruitcake wrote: »
    Debt collectors have no powers anywhere in the UK. The only thing they can do is send you very poor quality bog paper.
    They cannot take you to court, send bailiffs round to your home, give you a CCJ, or affect your credit score in any way shape or form.

    The issue here is that G24 have put something in writing stating they can do something and have quoted an Act of Parliament to imply it is lawful.
    Their statement is untrue and is a misrepresentation of facts. This is a serious issue. They have done it before and been told off.
    As long as you give Mr Dunford permission to use the email that the scammers sent you, they will be in even more trouble.

    Unfortunately parking scammers are allowed to access keeper data from the DVLA. However, there are restrictions on what they can do with that data once they have obtained it. In this case they have lied about an act of parliament that does not exist in Scottish law in an attempt to bully and frighten you into giving money to which they are not entitled.

    In addition to complaining to the DVLA, you should complain to Trading Standards, and your MP.
    This is the only way these scammers will ever be stopped. You have it within your power to help with that.
    I'm very relieved to know that the DCs hold no impact on my credit history in any way!
    DD emailed me back and said G24 claim it is an error in training of their staff that it should not have been stated and they have cancelled the invoice against me. DD has said he is continuing to look into it however. I mentioned to him another letter I received from them stated that even without driver info the fine could be transferred to the keepers liability. I am scanning this in to send him a copy for further evidence that they are sending this out on current template paperwork.
    He has requested to me that I contact him to let him know if they contact me again with anything other that cancellation of the invoice.
    I will also be contacting trading standards and my local MP. I have raised a full complaint against B&M too.
    when you respond to DD, make sure you point out they did this before, and give the date above
    Ask what, as they undertook not to repeat this, additional sanctions DD will apply this time. You suggest suspension from the keeper database until they prove they have destroyed their old templates and paperwork for Scottish addresses is the very minimum requirement

    when I reply to DD I with the copy of their incorrect letter I will mention that they were previously caught out for doing this in 26-01-2016, and still doing it. That their access should be suspended until they have proved that the fault will not reoccur and Scottish paperwork is accurate. (as G24s excuse is poor staff knowledge, I bet they will claim its that they have not known Falkirk is in Scotland, however the address does state Stirlingshire, I assume most people in the UK know that its in Scotland, after all I recognise town names from England etc).

    So far its a pretty good outcome :) I'm just disgusted from the experience as someone less inclined to do their research could and will have taken these invoices at face value and paid, or been bullied by the subsequent letters and threats and paid. The tricks they use to scam people and the fact business's sign up to be their clients- knowing the scams that will be out their customers way is shocking.
  • waamo wrote: »
    You are worrying that a company telling such big porkies that it may land them in court will continue chasing you after telling such porkies? Really?

    Have you read nothing about the situation in Scotland? Just ignore them and whatever stupid debt collectors they use. Continue to complain and drop them in it.

    Do you really think they will want a pack of lies designed to get money from you being shown to a Sheriff? That would be like a Nigerian scammer suing you for not paying the "transfer fee".

    I am of a nervous and suspicious nature. Hence my worry
  • waamo
    waamo Posts: 10,298 Forumite
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    I will also be contacting trading standards and my local MP. I have raised a full complaint against B&M too.

    That gets a massive thumbs up from me. I love it when people bite back.
  • Coupon-mad wrote: »
    Let's not forget what G24 actually said, this from page one of this thread:

    So, not only are they citing POFA in a country where it doesn't apply in law, but (just as bad) they've told a consumer that the POFA 'overrides' two other Acts of Parliament...ones that DO apply!

    errrmmm...Trading Standards report needed DEFINITELY about all the the above, also reminding TS that there was a previous complaint about the same firm on the date IamEamanresu gave (he knows the score re these complaints).

    I will make sure to point this section out of the email to TC. I am about to contact them over this rn and will state 26-01-2016 as the last time they were sanctioned for doing so
  • TARTANDAISYS
    TARTANDAISYS Posts: 28 Forumite
    edited 16 August 2017 at 7:10PM
    waamo wrote: »
    That gets a massive thumbs up from me. I love it when people bite back.

    I was going to contact POPLA and BPA too to make a complaint but I am unsure if that will hold much sway against G24 now as they have closed their invoice against me.

    What I also find concerning is that the theIAS that further appeals go through (according to G24, its not BPA)- uses the IPC for their electronic services and information within appeals. The IPC, G24 and Gladstones are all owned by the same man. how can an appeals process be unbiased, when it is carried out by the owners of the company serving the disputed invoice? ... Or maybe I am just looking into it all a bit too far lol
    *** edit *** moot point
  • DoaM
    DoaM Posts: 11,863 Forumite
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    G24 is owned by Will Hurley and John Davies? I don't think that is so.

    But as you say, G24 are IPC members so there'd be no point at all in contacting the BPA or POPLA.
  • https://uk.linkedin.com/in/will-hurley-45077141

    he owns Glastones and IPC, I'm sure I found that G24 was owned by gladstones- so by him too
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    I was going to contact POPLA and BPA too to make a complaint but I am unsure if that will hold much sway against G24 now as they have closed their invoice against me.

    What I also find concerning is that the theIAS that further appeals go through (according to G24, its not BPA)- uses the IPC for their electronic services and information within appeals. The IPC, G24 and Gladstones are all owned by the same man. how can an appeals process be unbiased, when it is carried out by the owners of the company serving the disputed invoice? ... Or maybe I am just looking into it all a bit too far lol

    So, you are saying that G24 HAS CANCELLED the ticket ??

    Gladstones set up the IPC/IAS and government approved
    them as an ATA

    This is an incestuous scam which government has been told
    many times including the PM .. MAY ???
    GOVERNMENT DOES NOTHING TO STOP THESE SCAMMERS

    Gladstones are not fit for purpose

    You need to ask your local MP why Mrs May continually
    ignores this mega scam
  • beamerguy wrote: »
    So, you are saying that G24 HAS CANCELLED the ticket ??

    Gladstones set up the IPC/IAS and government approved
    them as an ATA

    This is an incestuous scam which government has been told
    many times including the PM .. MAY ???
    GOVERNMENT DOES NOTHING TO STOP THESE SCAMMERS

    Gladstones are not fit for purpose

    You need to ask your local MP why Mrs May continually
    ignores this mega scam

    as far as I know its been cancelled and a confirmation letter of this is on its way to me
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