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M&S charging for bag for plants to go in

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  • ARandomMiser
    ARandomMiser Posts: 1,756 Forumite
    Are there really people that behave like this - boo hoo I didn't get my way therefore I am going throw all my toys around and stomp about and if I still don't get my way I will threaten to never shop there again - unless there is something I really want.

    And all this over a 5p bag were the money is given to charity?
    Let me guess ..... it is the principle of the thing (don't worry you can always sell out those wonderful principles next time you shop there).
    DO people not realise how ridiculous and childish they sound when they throw the old stomp out routine?
    IITYYHTBMAD
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    Not shopping there over a bag,I was fine with the out of date food though.
  • outofworksch
    outofworksch Posts: 144 Forumite
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    edited 1 May 2017 at 9:41AM
    Regardless of if its principles or not, this is pasted from gov.uk web site.




    Food and plants

    You’re not required to charge for plastic bags that are for:

    • uncooked fish and fish products
    • uncooked meat, poultry and their products
    • unwrapped food for animal or human consumption - such as chips, or food in containers that aren’t secure enough to prevent leakage during handling
    • unwrapped loose seeds
    • flowers
    • bulbs, corms or rhizomes (roots, stems and shoots, such as ginger).
    • goods contaminated by soil (like potatoes or plants)
  • unforeseen
    unforeseen Posts: 7,382 Forumite
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    Based on the use of a potato as an example then I read that as no requirement to charge for a plant that has been removed from its growing medium and so would be a loose item covered with soil, not a plant sitting in its own pot. Other examples would be loose carrots, parsnip etc. For the petunia the soil is contained in the pot and will not contaminate other goods unless the customer is careless
  • mumps
    mumps Posts: 6,285 Forumite
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    So, you avoid them but you don't actually avoid them? Well done for standing up to those corporate tyrants! :think:

    My husband is disabled so if he loves that cake I will get it for him but I won't buy anything for myself from them. Hope that helps you to understand.
    Sell £1500

    2831.00/£1500
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    Regardless of if its principles or not, this is pasted from gov.uk web site.




    Food and plants

    You’re not required to charge for plastic bags that are for:

    • uncooked fish and fish products
    • uncooked meat, poultry and their products
    • unwrapped food for animal or human consumption - such as chips, or food in containers that aren’t secure enough to prevent leakage during handling
    • unwrapped loose seeds
    • flowers
    • bulbs, corms or rhizomes (roots, stems and shoots, such as ginger).
    • goods contaminated by soil (like potatoes or plants)

    no one is denying you that, but there is no 'principle'

    They can charge for whatever they want. They don't HAVE to give you a free bag.

    The world is trying to cut down on plastic bags. You and your bedding plants don't matter to them. They don't HAVE to charge you, but they WANT to charge you.

    Bring you're own in future, to whatever shop you buy your plants from now, and enjoy your boycott over 5p
  • mumps
    mumps Posts: 6,285 Forumite
    Home Insurance Hacker!
    Are there really people that behave like this - boo hoo I didn't get my way therefore I am going throw all my toys around and stomp about and if I still don't get my way I will threaten to never shop there again - unless there is something I really want.

    And all this over a 5p bag were the money is given to charity?
    Let me guess ..... it is the principle of the thing (don't worry you can always sell out those wonderful principles next time you shop there).
    DO people not realise how ridiculous and childish they sound when they throw the old stomp out routine?

    I don't accept being lied to. They could stock other bags, they used to it wasn't all carrier bags. They have decided to lie to people by saying they have to charge for all bags and in so doing they don't need to supply the small bags they used to supply. That is their choice, but they should be honest and not treat people like fools. You may be happy to be treated as a fool but some people are not.

    Their profits are down so maybe they need to think about their relationship with the people who pay their wages?
    Sell £1500

    2831.00/£1500
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    edited 1 May 2017 at 9:40PM
    mumps wrote: »
    My husband is disabled so if he loves that cake I will get it for him but I won't buy anything for myself from them. Hope that helps you to understand.

    You didn't actually say what bag they tried to charge you for.

    If it was for their standard plastic bags then it IS the law to charge.

    Just because you wanted them to have different bags doesn't change the law regarding the bags they do have. (Sentence removed by MSE forum team)

    You enjoy your 5p boycott, and MNS will continue to enjoy the massive mark up on that cake that makes your boycott pointless...
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    mumps wrote: »
    I don't accept being lied to. They could stock other bags, they used to it wasn't all carrier bags. They have decided to lie to people by saying they have to charge for all bags and in so doing they don't need to supply the small bags they used to supply. That is their choice, but they should be honest and not treat people like fools. You may be happy to be treated as a fool but some people are not.

    Their profits are down so maybe they need to think about their relationship with the people who pay their wages?

    The small bags used to be free. The LAW is that they HAVE to charge for small one use bags. Is that clear enough now?!

    They used to be free when Marks and Spencer 'chose' to charge for their larger bags. No law.

    They ARE being honest and they're treating you like a fool... because... well I'll let you work that out. They don't have to supply paper bags because you want one for your special cake.
  • The-Truth
    The-Truth Posts: 483 Forumite
    mumps wrote: »
    Their profits are down so maybe they need to think about their relationship with the people who pay their wages?

    That statement reeks of self importance.

    I'll tell you now why places don't use paper bags it's because of the freeby/compo seekers. Basically if a bag split in the old days whilst walking out of the store many people would expect any broken items to be replaced for free. Paper bags are much more prone to breaking and if Supermarkets gave them out people would try and stuff them with as much as possible to avoid paying 5p, loads will break because of stupidity. It's easier for the retailer just not to have them rather than deal with all the nonsense that would occur with constantly breaking paper bags.
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