the snap general election thread

Arklight

Do you remember the last time you were in an accident, dialled 999 and waited anxiously for a banker and a Tory MP to arrive?


No? Well get used to the idea because that's about all that'll be left after another decade of the Right wrecking the country.

Rinoa

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Most of the EU's budget is invested in modernising infrastructure across the parts of Europe that need it, specifically to accelerate their economic growth, and create larger & more prosperous markets for mutual trading benefit in the future.

And yet, when asked to replace the UK's budget contribution every country that pays in said .."no thanks".

Maybe they're not as enthusiastic as you suggest.

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

Money, I'd assume. If our economy shrinks or our costs go up because of Brexit then we're going to get even more austerity.

The size of the economy doesn't determine austerity. I agree, money does though. In particular how it is spent. Simply paying people more money for instance. May result in yet more capital leaving the country. As much of the money will go on holidays, property, imported goods, travel etc. Resulting in the UK accruing further debt that will require servicing in the future. The UK's interest bill is growing every year.

Cakeguts

Arklight wrote: »

The UK consumer already has 25% less in his pocket thanks to Brexit so the market for export to the UK has shrunk.


If I were a BMW business strategist I would probably surmise that a country that can't pay its nurses enough to stop them having to turn to charity to eat, and that has just voted to leave the world's biggest economic zone based on some mass delusional village mentality, probably isn't going to be a cash cow.


Anyway, all this is moot. The opening negotiations have already seen Theresa May completely roll over.


rd Brexit won't happen so the Kippers will just have to explode with anger for all the world cares.

Starting salary for a nurse in the UK is £21,000 per year. Entry requirements for a course in nursing at a dud London university mean you don't need any As at A level to do the course so that means based on historical levels of education you can now become a nurse after a course where your entry standard of education to the course is 3 old O levels. That must be one of the highest paid jobs for the lowest level of education in the country. It is also extremely worrying that there are people working in health care who have such low levels of education. (Anyone who got an E for A level when A levels and O levels were difficult would now get an A for an A level so anything less than an A at A level now is comparable to an old O level.

However if someone is working in a job where their school qualifications were 3 old O levels you can see why they may not be able to budget on £21,000 per year. The problem is not the low level nursing salaries (they are high compared to educational qualifications) what is worrying is that the NHS will employ people as nurses who have got less than 3 As for A level. No wonder the NHS is in such a state.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Rinoa wrote: »

And yet, when asked to replace the UK's budget contribution every country that pays in said .."no thanks".

Maybe they're not as enthusiastic as you suggest.

Enthusiastic? Positively struggling for inspiration according to some accounts:

Britain contributes around 16 percent to the overall EU budget, or 10 billion to 11 billion euros annually, so its exit in March 2019 will create a financing gap that will be difficult to fill.
"We will have to save money because it will not be possible to make up completely for the gap," Budget Commissioner Gunther Oettinger told a news conference.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-budget-future-idUKKBN19J17W?il=0

Arklight

Cakeguts wrote: »

Starting salary for a nurse in the UK is £21,000 per year. Entry requirements for a course in nursing at a dud London university mean you don't need any As at A level to do the course so that means based on historical levels of education you can now become a nurse after a course where your entry standard of education to the course is 3 old O levels. That must be one of the highest paid jobs for the lowest level of education in the country. It is also extremely worrying that there are people working in health care who have such low levels of education. (Anyone who got an E for A level when A levels and O levels were difficult would now get an A for an A level so anything less than an A at A level now is comparable to an old O level.

However if someone is working in a job where their school qualifications were 3 old O levels you can see why they may not be able to budget on £21,000 per year. The problem is not the low level nursing salaries (they are high compared to educational qualifications) what is worrying is that the NHS will employ people as nurses who have got less than 3 As for A level. No wonder the NHS is in such a state.

You get an A* for contempt for Florence Nightingale's profession, if that's what you were going for, but an E- minus for the rest of the fact free polemic in your silly post.


Firstly, O levels ended a long, long, long time ago. The world is literally a different place. Current qualifications measure different information that doesn't involve slide rules, English kings and queens by rote, and long division by hand.


Secondly, you appear to be very confused as to the difference between an O Level, a CSE, the GCSE that replaced these, and the A Level.


Nurses certainly cannot enter a nursing course with the equivalent of an old O level. Even allowing for the unfairness of norm referencing in the old A level marking scheme, the equivalent new E to old O confers just 16 UCAS tariff points.


So you are claiming that nursing courses at a "dud" (as you put it) university have an entry barrier of 48 UCAS points.


Where?


The University of West London, one of the least prestigious London unis requires a minimum of two Bs and a C. The average for adult nursing is 120 points, or 3 Bs. At Al level,, not GCSE.


Greenwich wants 112 points. The lowest I can find is 104 at LSBU, which is a B and two Cs.


So leave nurses alone. They are qualified, they train very hard and they work very hard doing a vital job (what have you done?) for very little money.

Rinoa

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Enthusiastic? Positively struggling for inspiration according to some accounts:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-budget-future-idUKKBN19J17W?il=0

He he. They don't appear very optimistic we'll be paying our 100Bn euro divorce bill.

Thrugelmir

Rinoa wrote: »

And yet, when asked to replace the UK's budget contribution every country that pays in said .."no thanks".

Maybe they're not as enthusiastic as you suggest.

Explains the desire to impose a hefty divorce bill. Winston Churchill's famous salute springs to mind.

Sapphire

Chrysalis;72764657
'they may not be around as the affect of under investment in public services takes affect more and more'

In passing, correct usage in this case is 'effect', not 'affect'. How to use 'effect' and 'affect':

The effect of such a strategy is that…

It affected more people than you realise…

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

True, but there are all sorts of factors at play. Special tooling for RHD models will get comparatively more expensive as we buy less cars. That means they'll likely need to either drop models from the RHD lineup or put up the prices.

You do realise that the UK isn't alone on driving on the left hand side of the road.