the snap general election thread

Malthusian

kabayiri wrote: »

YouTube/crowd-funding/selective targetting : why shouldn't this all lead to a highly segmented voter base?

Because people who watch YouTube and buy hoverboards off Kickstarter don't vote.

mayonnaise

michaels wrote: »

Official EU doctrine is that any country's voters who get the result of a referendum wrong should be asked to vote again until they get the answer right. You would hardly be a committed Remainer if you didn't follow this central tenant of democracy EU style.

Absolutely nobody is suggesting a rerun of the referendum.
But do tell me why all of the sudden 'remainers' should stop campaigning and making the case for something they believe to be in the best interest of the country? Isn't that the whole point of democracy?
For 40+ years we had the right wing Tory fringe, UKIP, the rabid anti-EU tabloids etc...campaigning to undermine the democratic will of the people expressed in the 1975 referendum.
Why can't we do the same?

Rinoa

mayonnaise wrote: »

I accept the result of the referendum.

But what you guys need to accept is that democracy, the right to free speech, the right to campaign etc...wasn't suspended on June the 23rd last year.
Politics is fluid, public opinion changes, life goes on. What looked like a great idea last year might look entirely different in a few years time. Get used to it.

The remoaners are like aggrieved football fans whose team have lost an important match, bitterly complaining that the 'offside' goal should never have stood. Somehow believing that the FA will step in one day and overturn the result.

They won't. Get used to it.

mayonnaise

Rinoa wrote: »

The remoaners are like aggrieved football fans whose team have lost an important match, bitterly complaining that the 'offside' goal should never have stood. Somehow believing that the FA will step in one day and overturn the result.

They won't. Get used to it.

I did.
And now looking forward to the next game.
Onwards and upwards!

kabayiri

mayonnaise wrote: »

Absolutely nobody is suggesting a rerun of the referendum.
But do tell me why all of the sudden 'remainers' should stop campaigning and making the case for something they believe to be in the best interest of the country? Isn't that the whole point of democracy?
For 40+ years we had the right wing Tory fringe, UKIP, the rabid anti-EU tabloids etc...campaigning to undermine the democratic will of the people expressed in the 1975 referendum.
Why can't we do the same?

Sure you can !

In fact, I'll help by setting a calendar appointment for 2057, right now, and bookmark this thread.

westernpromise

mayonnaise wrote: »

But do tell me why all of the sudden 'remainers' should stop campaigning and making the case for something they believe to be in the best interest of the country?

Because the debate is over, and Remain lost.

mayonnaise

kabayiri wrote: »

Sure you can !

In fact, I'll help by setting a calendar appointment for 2057, right now, and bookmark this thread.

I have a sneaky feeling it won't be that long.
The kind of Brexit (or not) we get will be defined by one single factor; the economy.
With consumer spending falling off a cliff the past few months, things are definitely looking on the up.
I'm calling peak-Brexit.

kabayiri

mayonnaise wrote: »

I have a sneaky feeling it won't be that long.
The kind of Brexit (or not) we get will be defined by one single factor; the economy.
With consumer spending falling off a cliff the past few months, things are definitely looking on the up.
I'm calling peak-Brexit.

A government which backs out will be portrayed as betraying the will of the people by right wing politicians keen to exploit the disenchanted voters out there...and I reckon there are rather a lot of them.

What do you want? Divided EU or divided country?

mayonnaise

kabayiri wrote: »

A government which backs out will be portrayed as betraying the will of the people by right wing politicians keen to exploit the disenchanted voters out there...and I reckon there are rather a lot of them.

What do you want? Divided EU or divided country?

People are fickle. When the adverse effects of brexit will start dawning on the population in general and the 'disenchanted voter' most of all, all that guff about the will of the people will soon be forgotten. Backing out will not be seen as a betrayal, but the most sensible thing to do. Give it some time.

mrginge

mayonnaise wrote: »

People are fickle. When the adverse effects of brexit will start dawning on the population in general and the 'disenchanted voter' most of all, all that guff about the will of the people will soon be forgotten. Backing out will not be seen as a betrayal, but the most sensible thing to do. Give it some time.

When's it gonna be mayo?
When when I can't wait.