Will Scotland become independent in the next 5 years?

zagubov

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Unless you have Greek style cuts (if not worse) to the public sector finances then yes, iScotland would be bankrupt very quickly attempting to prop up a £15bn deficit along with all the additional debt commitments (incl. pensions) you will be required to take on from rUK.

There's no way around the economics of it, which is why that 'conversation' no longer appears on the Scotland thread, in an economics forum. Makes me laugh. It's now descended into an anti-Conservative agenda farce, as if that's a good enough reason to impoverish yourselves and future generations.

Then there's the jobs, the SNP and the indy support falling over themselves to spit furious words over ~80,000 job losses which are tied to the EU (if the reports are to be believed), against 1,000,000 job losses if Scotland leaves the UK (if the reports are to be believed). And of course there's Scotland's trade, 64% of it with the rUK and 11% of it with the EU, without mentioning the 'Border Effect' which will see an alleged 5.5% GDP drop for iScotland, at a time when you'll be borrowing eye watering amounts (compared to the size of your economy). Which will only increase your deficit further than the £15bn.

Not forgetting the cost of setting up all of your own institutions, embassies, governmental departments, central bank (unless you're going to join the Euro? :rotfl:), etc... But assets you say, you own 8% of everything in the UK you say, well doesn't that mean that rUK owns 92% of everything in the UK? You're going to have to pay us for the assets we own in iScotland.

I've just skimmed over some headlines from the iScotland thread to give people an insight into the disaster that the independence support put forward as 'the ultimate solution'. It is the above that you and others want people to vote for to ensure they don't get a Conservative government, if the latest from our resident SNP liaison about the tone and agenda of the upcoming independence campaign is to be believed. And all of that is if Holyrood is granted the ability to even hold another referendum during Brexit negotiations.

Pigs might fly springs to mind.

I don't remember the OP asking people to justify their beliefs/delusions. But it seems you do.

TrickyTree83

zagubov wrote: »

I don't remember the OP asking people to justify their beliefs/delusions. But it seems you do.

I feel it a civic duty to deliver the truth about your misguided crusade.

zagubov

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I feel it a civic duty to deliver the truth about your misguided crusade.

What misguided crusade? Remaining in an economic union?

TrickyTree83

zagubov wrote: »

What misguided crusade? Remaining in an economic union?

some would take that as proof positive of the misguidance I referred to.

davomcdave

beecher2 wrote: »

Am fairly confident 'Scexit' will not become a thing! Wonder if it will be Leave and Remain again - looks more likely than a rerun of Yes or No.

HA HA! I now have something to aim for, the common acceptance of the word Scexit. It is a terrible word.

MacMickster wrote: »

How about Joxit?

Snowflakes will find it racist. I was thinking of Swexit (Sweaty Sock exit) but it's out of the question for the same reason.

Fella

mayonnaise wrote: »

I'm surprised 'Yes' even gets 18% on a forum swamped by alt-right brexiteers.

Actually it's the country that's swamped by Brexiteers. That's why they won.

Hintza

mayonnaise wrote: »

I'm surprised 'Yes' even gets 18% on a forum swamped by alt-right brexiteers.

I think if you look back at the past polls on MSE they are in the main a heck of a lot more accurate at predicting an out come than the mainstream polls.

ProDave

All I hear on the street is "Will that bloody woman just SHUT UP". People I meet from BOTH sides don't want the further uncertainty and division making that NS is stiring up again. Most people accept Scotland had it's "once in a generation" vote and accept what the majority chose.

Which bit of "once in a generation" does Nicoliar not understand? Can she (and her cult supporters) not see the damage she is doing to Scotland by continuing to push her divisive isolationist policies.

It's all just a smoke screen (but a damaging one) because now that Scotland has it's own tax raising powers, it can no longer blame "Westminster" or "Tory Austerity" yet is afraid to actually do anything meaningful with those new powers to change anything.

westernpromise

The potty campaign for Scottish independence has probably already done Scotland significant damage. The prospect of a chaotic Joxit and the existing threat of higher taxes than elsewhere in the UK are both good reasons for businesses not to be located in Scotland.

If businesses wanted to be headquartered in a backward feudal kleptocracy based on dwindling oil supplies, they could locate to Yemen now. Yet they don't. Funny, that.

I suppose an iScotland could apply to join the GCC? https://www.britannica.com/topic/Gulf-Cooperation-Council

Shakethedisease

Odds are shifting over at the bookies. They seem to think it'll be a Yes in a second referendum.

Next Independence Referendum held before end 2020 6/5

Scotland to vote NO to Independence before end 2020 11/4

Scotland to vote YES to Independence before end 2020 3/1

No Independence Referendum held before end 2020 4/6

https://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/betting/politics/scottish/scottish-referendum/next-scottish-independence-referendum/221109144/

ps nice try beecher but is never long before threads like these turn into the usual rants about SNP cults, oil and how Scotland would be the only country in the world without a currency.