Setting up two routers

rtho782

You can do what you want but not with the kit that you have.

You need a router with a VPN client built in, for example one of the Asus ones, I have an RT-AC87u which has an openvpn client, I could in theory put this behind a sky router, and if I connected to the sky wifi I'd not be on VPN, if I connected to the Asus wifi I would be on VPN.

An ISP provided crapbox will not do this.

You could also set up your RPI as a VPN router, if it's an RPI3 it has wifi.

Most VPN providers are slow and crap though.

bsod

Chickabiddybex wrote: »

Note: I want to access geoblocked content on my Raspberry Pi (Kodi) and have been advised to do so via VPN... hence me wanting two routers!

go back to the person who advised you for a proper explanation, the two routers idea is barking up the wrong tree, it's a complete non-starter

cookie365

bsod wrote: »

go back to the person who advised you for a proper explanation, the two routers idea is barking up the wrong tree, it's a complete non-starter

Or better still, don't go back to them again for any explanations about anything at all

bluesnake

like had been said, two routers are the wrong way to go. Either you heard the advice wrong, or you got bad advice.

One of the cheapest and easiest ways is to get a company like privateinternetaccess. They support 5 devices simultaneously for one licence cost, so you can use 5 devices at once, each should have the choice of their own Country from within the client. No hardware needed and cost about £40 a year for the vpn. You can also install it on more than 5 items, just not use them simultaneously.

The other way is to buy a 'special router' that supports OpenVPN. Some are more reliable than others. This router will cost, and I believe you should buy one that is know and supported by your VPN provider of choice, as it will make resolution of problems far easier. All devices you connect will be located to only one country, and it is a bit harder to select a new country.

I think you are overthinking geoblocking, as it is not that bad, and can often also be mitigated by a browser that has a built in vpn like Epic Privacy Browser and these youtube videos will be fine.

Also if you choose say Spain as you VPN endpoint, and use Epic Browser, the browser will create another private network that could point to another country like USA, but the data does exit in Spain first before going to the USA. Running TOR over vpn does the same.

Chickabiddybex

Ok, so what would you guys say is the best option then, to make the following happen:

Highest priority:
Access US geoblocked content on Kodi on RasPi

High priority:
Unblock US Netflix on PS4
(Actually, I have a PS3 too which I could use for US Netflix and keep my PS4 for UK Netflix and online gaming which gets around me wanting to easily switch between the two if there is a way to do that, but AFAIK I have to change settings on the router rather than the PS3 hence me thinking the 2 router set up would be the best option. I am not adverse to getting another Pi instead of another router if that could work.)

*sigh* This used to be so easy before Neflix managed to block people who had simply faffed with their DNS settings.

Low priority: (I can live without this)
Be able to pretend to be in another country if I come across a geoblocked video while browsing on my phone simply, and with minimal effort. (I know there are apps for this hence low priority)

Chickabiddybex

bluesnake wrote: »

One of the cheapest and easiest ways is to get a company like privateinternetaccess.

Does this support a PS3/PS4? I can't see where it does.

bluesnake wrote: »

I think you are overthinking geoblocking, as it is not that bad, and can often also be mitigated by a browser that has a built in vpn like Epic Privacy Browser and these youtube videos will be fine.

Unfortunately Netflix is wise to a lot of this.
(In fairness other providers are not and that's how I currently watch geoblocked TV. But I have to borrow a laptop to do it which is a pain so I'd much rather use Kodi on my RasPi.)

I am very grateful for the advice I am getting here, but please keep in mind I am not using a desktop or laptop so suggesting I use a browser to get around it doesn't solve my specific sitation.

SandLake

Chickabiddybex I agree with you totally. I don't understand why this isn't something for which there aren't a lot of solutions, 2 networks (wired/wireless) one VPN'd and one not, if you want local internet then connect to network A and if you want VPN'd internet then connect to network B. My routers now support 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz - I could even use that. An easy option to select whatever type of network you want - I haven't found such a solution - yet
I would have thought a lot of people want to do this and don't understand why router manufacturers haven't cottoned on

bluesnake

I have had no dealings with Netflix or PS3/4 or Pi.

I know within Kodi, you can install a vpn, but unsure of this is o/s dependant

According to the link below, a router is your best option, but you may be able to turn a Pi into a hotspot?

Another method... You may have to buy a new Pi and hopefully the wifi bandwidth is sufficient? Also things like Torrents can cause lots of NAT memory table space to be taken, and can cause routers to crash/fail/not work. You already have an exiting Pi to try things out on, and in effect you will have two routers

Two routers as most people talk about them, still wont work.

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/3014/setting-up-vpn-on-a-ps3-or-ps4
https://www.flashrouters.com/vpn-types/privateinternetaccess
https://danq.me/2015/11/25/raspberry-pi-vpn-hotspot/
Bonus track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg-V0gMp7vU

You will need to contact the vpn suppliers/forums to find out if Netflix still works through vpn? Why not ditch them instead?

There is an issue when if the openvpn connection is lost, i does not normally automatically connect. In a PC the client kills all network traffic and tries to auto reconnect. On a modem I am unsure, as mine lets unecrypted traffic through after and you need a firewall to block it. It also does not automatically reconnect the vpn, and had to be done manually

psychic_teabag

Maybe you can just configure the pi to act as a forwarder for other devices, such as the PS4. A router is just a computer with lots of network ports (and broadband interface which you don't need anyway).

I have my pi connected to internal network via wifi, and acts as the router for an internal subnet. When anything plugs into its ethernet, it provides a dhcp address and then forwards traffic to the main router (which has been confugured to use the pi as a static router for that subnet).

Because you can have aliases on network interfaces, I assume you could do something along the same lines on wifi (or run two wifi devices). Then a software VPN running on the pi could be made available to anyone that wants to connect via it.

EDIT: (I also have second router, reflashed with openwrt, acting as a subnet in my office. But then I'm just odd...)

Chickabiddybex

So... if I connect to the Internet on my PS3 via my RasPi would I need a new one or can I run it from my current RasPi 3 which I'm using for Kodi?