Accommodation v Disposable income dilemma

Kim_kim

rosyw wrote: »

I am similarly confused having come from, I suppose, an upper middle class background, did I move to upper class when I had my 7 bed-roomed country house with several acres,horses etc? and have I now moved down to middle class as I have a 3 bed detached? Who knows??? :rotfl::rotfl:

Maybe upper middle down to middle :-)

Kim_kim

fierystormcloud wrote: »

I bet these people who think they suddenly go UP the social classes because they get a mortgage on a 3 bed detached house and have finance on a new car, don't think they DROP a class when they downsize or have to get an older car! :rotfl:

Hilarious!

Class is education & background.

I'm working class, I'm not ashamed of it, nor do I aspire to kid people I am anything else.

Social mobility doesn't happen in one generation.

It's so snobby to deride those who cannot join the "members only club" of the middle & upper social classes.

glasgowdan

Keep checking to see if the OP has dropped any more comedy genius...

Out,_Vile_Jelly

Here is a handy guide to class in Britain:

Upper Class: don't use ketchup
Upper Middle Class: keep ketchup in the fridge
Lower Middle Class: keep ketchup in the cupboard
Lower Class: use sachets nicked from MaccyDs

I went on a date once with a guy who mentioned repeatedly that his mum was friends with Richard O'Brien (Crystal Maze presenter from olden days telly). I didn't respond so he kept saying it. Really interesting what some people think will "impress" others.

rosyw

Kim_kim wrote: »

Maybe upper middle down to middle :-)

But I still have my very posh green wellies, surely that will help maintain my position?? :rotfl::rotfl: Who even cares ????? I know I don't give a damn!

We are all what we are - I don't care about status, I care about PEOPLE, whatever their background, people who show respect and consideration for others and most importantly, do no harm. A decent person is still a decent person no matter what, social class has nothing to do with it.

Soundgirlrocks

gld73 wrote: »

WHAT??? Never put vinegar on your chips? Really?! What on earth do posh people put on their chips if they're missing out on the trinity of salt, vinegar & ketchup?!

Oh hold on. Did you mean "You should never put vinegar on your chips" as in "You should never put vinegar on your chips .... you should get your butler to put it on for you" ..? Yeah, that makes more sense.

Nope I'm serious, vinegar is just about acceptable on fish and chips from the chip shop (but it really should be lemon) its to cut through the grease of the batter. Also salt to the side of the plate, never sprinkled all over (so salt pot with a spoon on the dining table) There is a right way to eat toast too! (No I don't follow any of these archaic rules in my home but when my invite to the Palace comes I'll know how to behave :rotfl:) There are classes in London to teach social etiquette, which knife and folk to use type of thing.

But on a serious note to the OP manners, how you speak (language and knowing what not to say) etc are social graces that will make you more comfortable mixing with people from a different background. Your social skills and charm are by far the biggest assets you need to master (which includes not bragging about what you have as that is vulgar) Never make someone else uncomfortable is the golden rule.

Rain_Shadow

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Here is a handy guide to class in Britain:

Upper Class: don't use ketchup
Upper Middle Class: keep ketchup in the fridge
Lower Middle Class: keep ketchup in the cupboard
Lower Class: use sachets nicked from MaccyDs

I went on a date once with a guy who mentioned repeatedly that his mum was friends with Richard O'Brien (Crystal Maze presenter from olden days telly). I didn't respond so he kept saying it. Really interesting what some people think will "impress" others.

Does it make me more middle class to say I know him as the creator of Rocky Horror? Or does it just make me older?:D


We didn't have ketchup when I was a lad. We had brown sauce. My mother thought ketchup was 'common'.

Sausage11

Despite the rather strange beginning this has actually become a very interesting thread. It's got me questioning my own class assumptions. I would say that one of my grandfathers was working class (boiler maker), one middle class (Major in the army), father middle class (probation officer, privately educated) and I would identify as middle (state educated). But how does the transition occur? Societally I would say that the UK has become more middle class - i.e. there are now more middle class people than there would have been several generations ago. Is this a function of increasing wealth? Education? Self-image? And when can someone legitimately claim to have moved from WC to MC? Or MC to UC? Can an individual transition classes or does it have to be done on a generational basis?

In terms of the point the OP may have originally tried to make, I think that in business signifiers of wealth can often be important. But then I would say the flat vs. detached is irrelevant - it's the cost of the flat / house that would be key rather than the size. A 1-bed flat in Knightsbridge would tick the status box far better than a typical 3-bed detached in Luton. But in order to impress you also need to add in a lot of other factors such as confidence, etiquette etc. These can sometimes far outweigh the financial indicators.

lulu650

Equally impressed by neither

Kim_kim wrote: »

....I'm working class, I'm not ashamed of it, nor do I aspire to kid people I am anything else......

Fascinating thread.
I'm ex council house, left school at 15 to be a typist but made good decisions with education opportunities in later life. I tend to "big up" my background in a way I've seen others do when coming from a more working class background entering working or social situations with those who've been privately educated. I suppose it's inverted snobbery in a way.....and I'm only speaking for myself here!

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Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

Upper Class: don't use ketchup
Upper Middle Class: keep ketchup in the fridge
Lower Middle Class: keep ketchup in the cupboard
Lower Class: use sachets nicked from MaccyDs

In our house, we steal our ketchup sachets from a David Lloyds gym cafe then put them in the fridge. I'm confused where we fit