Paris Metro ticket - possible proof of an affair

duchy

Is he the kind of man who would even think to buy a carnet of tickets .....most men it wouldn't even occur to them and would pay as you go.

Dunno where he stayed in Bristol but I do recall the Hilton had rubbish mobile signal when I stayed there (bit random but just in case that was where he stayed)

Why don't you just ask him to see his expense returns, meals for two on every single business trip would show up. I would question if she was there on every trip whether she did indeed attend in her job role (and her own room) and if not how she held her job down with so much absence. She may very well have been on the same trip sometimes as a legitimate business reason but when telling you changed it from a few of his trips to all of his trips. The most convincing lies are built on a crumb of truth as a foundation but fabrication built on top. The fact she came to you with all the "evidence" conveniently to hand smacks of something planned and with time to create her own version of documents.

Honestly nothing she has come up with is "proof". Take away her version and look purely at facts and we have a ticket that could have come from anywhere in a compartment that is never used,a woman who may indeed have had legitimate reasons to be on the same business trip sometimes but nothing that says they socialised beyond normal work levels except her word".......... and after she had left you were warned she had form as a troublemaker (and she was unhappy to be transferred, if she was that much of an asset she'd have been able to decline the transfer or her boss would have not transferred her in the first place.....could be her odd behaviour was noticed ?) Obviously you'll know how common sudden and unwelcome transfers are within his company or if this was unusual for the company.

Either your previous relationship has made you unreasonably suspicious or your 6th sense is telling you he's a cheat. I knew without any concrete proof my ex had cheated , outwardly everything was normal but there was some subtle change I picked up on (to this day I don't know what I just knew) however in your case two years have passed and this has just resurfaced so I don't think it's the same. But only you know for sure.

As you have access to her FB it might be interesting to see if there are check ins at places nowhere near where he was on business . If there are and taking into account you know she already lied about your anniversary it might help you confirm or otherwise her truthfulness.

Knightsuntold

-taff wrote: »

Well....forget everything for a minute and ask yourself...
If you asked him and he said he didn't buy the ticket, would you believe him?
If you asked him and he said he did buy the ticket would you believe him?

Either way, you're not going to believe he's been faithful because a ticket is the hinge of your trust in him.

You either have to believe it's a stupid co-incedence or he's lying. No-one can really help because no-one knows the answers as far as divining what the numbers on a ticket mean...

There is an explanation for it. Tickets don't mysteriously appear from no where. It's just a question of how it did - and that's the tricky bit. I only came on here to find out if I could glean any information from the ticket itself, and felt obliged to give a bit of background detail, to explain why it was in this thread - I didn't expect it to spiral in the way it has.

Knightsuntold

duchy wrote: »

Unless it was MILs , which is more plausible. If you drove to Paris for an illicit weekend you'd either not leave the hotel much or would use the car you brought with you. Buying a carnet of tickets (10 tickets) wouldn't make sense. If you used the Metro it'd be more likely to be just once or twice so you'd buy individual tickets not plan ahead and buy a set of ten surely ?

There's nothing to say that they drove - they could have flown, and he was away for about a week.

thorsoak

You are convincing yourself that the affair did happen.

firebird082

OP, have you simply asked your partner about the ticket? What does he say?

The other woman sounds completely mental, and I can't understand why you would take her accusations seriously, apart from your specific relationship history. Does she know about any of that?

Edit to add: I find stuff in our travel bags from years ago, as we never quite manage to clear them completely - it wouldn't say it's unusual for it to be missed multiple times and them found later.

duchy

I found a boarding pass from a three year old trip recently. I've used the same cabin bag for numerous trips since so yes it is possible. Why not just ask him , and not happy with the answer tell him you want to see his business credit card statements and expenses claims for that time. It has to be better than torturing yourself like this !

Knightsuntold

Malthusian wrote: »

Are we seriously now discussing the possibility that on your anniversary, your husband, after celebrating his anniversary with his wife, waited until you were asleep, snuck off to another room in the hotel, had a passionate rendezvous with his mistress, then snuck back within six hours before you woke up? And simultaneously managed to keep the fact that you were there from his mistress and come up with a convincing reason why she had to stay in a separate room from him and he had to get back to his before morning that didn't involve his wife? This is a great plot for a Whitehall farce but not a great reason for ending a relationship.

You can say "I'm not saying..." but even raising the possibility is giving it far more significance than it deserves. Compared to the possibility that this woman, who has a history of irrational behaviour which is beyond dispute, i.e. the poison pen texts and "I'm watching you" messages, is a fantasist.

In North Korea or Salem, maybe.

We've established that the codes on the ticket contain no information of use to you. If you're still here we have to assume it's because you want to talk through the wider issue.

*edit* Just to illustrate the point, if someone was murdered in the vicinity that night, then yes you can give your husband an alibi. Most juries in this country would consider there was reasonable doubt that a man could sneak out of bed, commit murder, wash the blood off his clothes, successfully hide all the other evidence and be back in bed without waking up his wife within six hours.

No, I wasn't seriously saying that, and I'm surprised that you would think I was.

"History of irrational behaviour, which is beyond dispute" - what exactly is that history? Please, if you know, do share, as all I've got is circumstantial.

No, not in North Korea or Salem, but here. Any barrister worth his or her salt would use it.

I'm still here, because there have been some lovely and very helpful people, but there are also those where I feel the need to defend myself and my actions.

Wow. That's some impressive imagination. Murder can take place in many forms where there is no blood. Evidence involving a sleeping partner is frowned upon, because that partner could have been drugged. Even toxicology reports are iffy in this area, as you have to know the specific drug you are testing for. In any case, all of this is irrelevant to the case in point.

thorsoak

Knightsuntold wrote: »

No, I wasn't seriously saying that, and I'm surprised that you would think I was.

"History of irrational behaviour, which is beyond dispute" - what exactly is that history? Please, if you know, do share, as all I've got is circumstantial.

No, not in North Korea or Salem, but here. Any barrister worth his or her salt would use it.

I'm still here, because there have been some lovely and very helpful people, but there are also those where I feel the need to defend myself and my actions.

Wow. That's some impressive imagination. Murder can take place in many forms where there is no blood. Evidence involving a sleeping partner is frowned upon, because that partner could have been drugged. Even toxicology reports are iffy in this area, as you have to know the specific drug you are testing for. In any case, all of this is irrelevant to the case in point.

Now I am prepared to be flamed for this post - I've kept up all the way through, but after reading your most recent post, I'm asking you a different question - are you working on the plot of a novel?

melanzana

thorsoak wrote: »

Now I am prepared to be flamed for this post - I've kept up all the way through, but after reading your most recent post, I'm asking you a different question - are you working on the plot of a novel?

You will not be flamed.

I asked the same thing in post#8 at the very early stages of the saga!!

jamiehelsinki

I'm pretty sure when I bought tickets for the Paris metro I had to buy a few not one. It's been a while though!