Vent: HGV Drivers who 'block' dual carriageways

Pyxis

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

Just be a bit careful - Plod knows exactly where these nice long straight bits are, and take great please in hiding at the end with a radar/laser gun... Your safe, quick overtaking manoeuvre is a source of easy tickets for them...

Oh it's ok! I'm talking overtaking from 25-30mph or so, on a stretch with a 60mph limit!
:A

pickledonionspaceraider

Twopints wrote: »

Clearly you do not require the services of doctors, nurses, carers etc who are delayed by the type of driving that you seem to think is acceptable. Just because someone is a "professional" driver does not mean they are any good, just that they are paid to do it.

If an emergency arises, an emergency services vehicle is dispatched. These are recognised by the flashing blue lights and loud sirens. It is the law to get out of the way of these vehicles - whatever you are driving = Not the same as any care worker on their way to or from work.

As a car driver, you pass your test and that's it - forever unless the licence is lost and a resit is needed

Did you know that HGV drivers have done two more advanced driving tests, over and above what car drivers have to pass, and are constantly monitored in a more stringent than ever before industry. They are trained to a far superior standard than someone who has just passed their car driving test. It doesn't mean they are all perfect, but the advanced driving courses along with the extended driving experience and hours on the road, does mean they are far better prepared than someone who does ten miles travelling to work and back by car each day.

A lorry driver does more driving hours in a day than an office worker would do each month for example - so there is no reasonable comparison

pickledonionspaceraider

wrightk wrote: »

Here we go, another back-trakker

Your quote actually said 'people who moan, remember trucks deliver everything that people buy'. Implying that we shouldn't moan about the driving style of people in trucks because they deliver everything we buy.

think about it- thats like me saying 'dont moan about my driving style, remember im a doctor'

My point is regardless of who is driving, what they are carrying that does not give anyone the right to drive irresponsibly

Which is a moot point because doctors are not advanced drivers, they are doctors. Doctors who are not currently in the process of performing their job, unlike truck drivers

I agree, no one should be driving irresponsibly.

If you want to get involved in adult conversation on a forum, try conversing rather jumping in out the blue, and imagining an argument for yourself. Your spelling/subject knowledge/typing style come across as a bit teenager. Respond as you wish as you will be on ignore

Anyhoo

I think a lot of people are unsympathetic to HGV drivers because they do not understand the job. Artic drivers have taken two advanced driving tests, over and above car drivers - and spend thousands of pounds of their own money to get where they are. Driving is now monitored through CPC qualifications and never before has road transport been under more scrutiny within the industry. Having spent so much money and gone through difficult tests, it is not common that drivers will want to risk what is essentially their livelihood, their licence, by doing something daft such as using the phone etc

Much of the time the drivers are working to timed deliveries where the company they work for gets fined if they do not hit the delivery time. This is why they overtake each other. Different trucks will move at different rates, up to 56mph, dependant on truck make and model and how heavy the wagon is loaded.

I do not really understand what this thread is about, moaning about working class people, doing their jobs within the confines of the law.

How would any of you feel if someone, who was completely ignorant of your job, came in to your workplace to tell you that you were doing it wrong? you would just think they were ignorant of the facts,,, just as drivers think when they hear this kind of talk. These are just guys trying to do their jobs, on a strict time scale within the confines of some very strict rules that they have to adhere to or they get personally prosecuted.

I think it helps people to hear the other side, rather than ''I didn't leave the house on time this morning and was delayed for four minutes behind a HGV and little tarquin was late for his ballet lessons''

wrightk

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

I do not wish to argue, so I shall not respond to you again. If you want to get involved in adult conversation I future on a forum, try conversing rather than telling people your version of what a complete stranger is saying ref a subject you appear to know little about, other than mudslinging

Says the person who in their original version of this post until 4 mins ago said 'i thought you were a child' until recently edited!

I disagreed with your post and justified it, you replied misquoting yourself in order to put your point across, i just corrected you on that, ive not done any mudslinging.

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

I agree, no one should be driving irresponsibly.

Which was all i was trying to say if you actually read any of my posts..

wrightk

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

If you want to get involved in adult conversation on a forum, try conversing rather jumping in out the blue, and imagining an argument for yourself. Your spelling/subject knowledge/typing style come across as a bit teenager. Respond as you wish as you will be on ignore

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martinbuckley

How about banning everyone who is entitled to a free bus pass? There'd be plenty of room for lorries transporting all our goods across the country if the OAPs used public transport.

The_Real_Cheddar_Bob

i'm all for banning lorries. Good luck getting your heating oil delivered by van.

Anyone care to think about the volume of produce transported throughout the UK to keep the wingers fed?

imagine the uproar the next time you went to the shops with no food........ or milk, WOW

bugbyte_2

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

How would any of you feel if someone, who was completely ignorant of your job, came in to your workplace to tell you that you were doing it wrong?

HA. try teaching.

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pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

It doesn't mean they are all perfect, but the advanced driving courses along with the extended driving experience and hours on the road, does mean they are far better prepared than someone who does ten miles travelling to work and back by car each day.

Or, using the same logic, they are far more complacent than other drivers who don't drive as much. Which can be exacerbated by the height and size of the HGV compared to other smaller vehicles.

Feral_Moon

Oldfatgrumpy wrote: »

Having in my younger days owned underpowered cars, I was caught out early in my driving career by attempting an overtake of a diesel Land-Rover up a long hill on a dual carriageway. Embarrassing.
Nowadays I would not consider putting myself or others at risk or to inconvenience (which is how it feels to me, YMMV) by attempting an overtake which required my pushing of the throttle to the floor for several miles and hoping that at some unforeseeable point further down the road I might be able to get back into lane 1.
Lorry drivers in general must have a different mindset.

Completely agree! One of my vehicles is an older classic and prefers to cruise along at around 60mph. For this reason I rarely, if ever, overtake anything and I'm quite happy to sit in the inside lane and allow everyone else to overtake me. In fact I travelled over 100 miles on motorways and dual carriageways last week and never overtook anything once.