Britain can be better off outside Europe

mrginge

nkomp18 wrote: »

No I won't delete because it's not racist and because it's a true fact. UK is predominately white and christian. It always has been until now. EU countries are too. It is where white people come from, the origin, the place of their creation.
Not sure when that will change, if it will ever change, but for now I suggest you learn to live in peace with concrete facts.

So accepting that UK is a predominately white christian country (again, fact, not racist), what better countries to trade with than its immediate next door neighbours that also happen to be white and christian? (not that it matters, but it is another conveniently placed FACT)

Do you make a conscious decision to favour white Christians in your personal life as well?

mayonnaise

CLAPTON wrote: »

Frankly I would suggest you delete that paragraph.

Frankly I would suggest you delete most of your 28k posts.

You're not fooling anyone with your newly discovered concern for the average African farmer, Clappers. :rotfl:

TrickyTree83

mayonnaise wrote: »

Frankly I would suggest you delete most of your 28k posts.

You're not fooling anyone with your newly discovered concern for the average African farmer, Clappers. :rotfl:

He does have a point about the protectionism.

Regardless of Clapton's delivery of the message, it's not false or misleading.

CLAPTON

mayonnaise wrote: »

Frankly I would suggest you delete most of your 28k posts.

You're not fooling anyone with your newly discovered concern for the average African farmer, Clappers. :rotfl:

so what is it
you don't believe in the mutual benefits of free trade?
or you don't believe in the mutual benefits of free trade if one party is black African country?

or do you believe in them but don't like them mentioned as it doesn't show the EU in a good light?

and I would add that I have frequently posted about the damage the EU agricultural policies has imposed on poor countries over many years - long before brexit was an issue (just as I have posted about our trade deficit.)

wotsthat

mrginge wrote: »

Do you make a conscious decision to favour white Christians in your personal life as well?

Your deep concern for non-white non-christian peoples is heartwarming. I'm welling up a little to be honest.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

Your deep concern for non-white non-christian peoples is heartwarming. I'm welling up a little to be honest.

it would be good to know if you had any genuine concerns of any one atall other than your religious devotion to the EU 'idea'.

Mortgagefreeman

Great news. Onwards and upwards.:beer:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/01/ftse-100-breaks-6800-and-pound-skids-ahead-of-uk-manufacturing-d/

A_Medium_Size_Jock

I see Leif-Erik Holm has openly said he doesn't blame the UK for wanting to leave the EU:

“Brexit wouldn’t have happened without Merkel: Brits wanted to take back control !because they saw that Merkel’s unilateral action — without consulting our parliament, let alone her European partners — brought chaos to Europe.“We will miss Britain, but I can’t blame you for leaving.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/the-times/europe-migrant-crisis-merkel-loses-grip-on-her-ruling-coalition/news-story/2a3f1fd7af7cd41278ff000b20442e51

Oh and before we hear any rubbishing of the AfD, you might like to note that their popularity is increasing - so much so in fact that they may well become the largest political party in Merkel's own constituency in regional elections due this coming weekend.
http://www.politico.eu/article/tipping-point-for-the-german-far-right-alternative-for-germany-angela-merkel/

mayonnaise

request_made_to_change_username wrote: »

Great news. Onwards and upwards.:beer:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/01/ftse-100-breaks-6800-and-pound-skids-ahead-of-uk-manufacturing-d/

Why is an appreciating pound great news?
For the last couple of months, I keep hearing from our brexiteer headbangers how wonderful a weak pound is.

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

do you believe that any and all expressions of concern for other peoples are 'faux' or is it just mine?

Mainly yours.

CLAPTON wrote: »

My primary concern is for the people born in this country of whatever colour, race, ethnic background, religion, sexual orientation. I believe that UK policy should do, in general, what is in the best interests of UK citizens.

Same here but I recognise that what is in the best interests of 'us' might be detrimental to 'them' and, whilst that might be uncomfortable, I can live with it (within limits). What I'm not going to do create a faux argument that someone whose 'us' extends beyond 10 people is the big racist because it salves my conscience.

CLAPTON wrote: »

I am arguing for a a trade and immigration policies that benefits the UK citizens but that is otherwise non discriminatory : you are arguing for a openly racist one.

If you could think of Europeans as 'us' rather than 'them' you could quite easily make the identical argument for trade and immigration policies that benefit European citizens but are otherwise non-discriminatory. Not much difference in the argument - you just operate in a small monkeysphere and, of course, you very much see Europeans as 'them'.