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Will Britain really leave EU?

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  • DollarSaver
    DollarSaver Posts: 32 Forumite
    edited 28 July 2016 at 8:00PM
    I voted to try and retain peace, be together with a greater body of countries which provide very real benefits, relative prosperity for many and because I realize just how good we have it and not because of what we could further gain (at huge, huge risk) but what we can now lose.

    I also understood that the U.K. government was to blame for many ills and did not want to use the E.U. as a convenient scapegoat.

    I also voted remain because I did not want to vote for something that I did not know what I was voting for. That case remains today, what have you voted for exactly ?

    Please, do let me know, me and 34 million others would like to know and that includes 17million Brexiters.

    There are further reasons but the above are general and can apply to most.
  • mrginge
    mrginge Posts: 4,843 Forumite
    I voted to try and retain peace, be together with a greater body of countries which provide very real benefits, relative prosperity for many and because I realize just how good we have it and not because of what we could further gain (at huge, huge risk) but what we can now lose.

    I also understood that the U.K. government was to blame for many ills and did not want to use the E.U. as a convenient scapegoat.

    I also voted remain because I did not want to vote for something that I did not know what I was voting for. That case remains today, what have you voted for exactly ?

    Please, do let me know, me and 34 million others would like to know and that includes 17million Brexiters.

    There are further reasons but the above are general and can apply to most.


    What you have to remember is that however considered, well meaning and thought through you think your reasoning is, your opinion is worth exactly the same as someone who voted leave because we never win the Eurovision.

    Isn't that fantastic!
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    Glad someone explained that to him.
  • Robisere
    Robisere Posts: 3,237 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Photogenic Combo Breaker
    It's worth repeating:
    No one knows what will happen when we leave.

    And so is this:
    The vote was a democratic decision taken by the British people. The close result does not matter, it happened and it has to be accepted. Let us now get on with being independent and responsible for our own futures again.

    The fact that you may not agree with that decision, does not allow you to question the intelligence and choice of everyone who cast a vote opposite to yours.
    I think this job really needs
    a much bigger hammer.
  • Kohoutek
    Kohoutek Posts: 2,861 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Robisere wrote: »
    The fact that you may not agree with that decision, does not allow you to question the intelligence and choice of everyone who cast a vote opposite to yours.

    It absolutely does allow you to do that - we live a society with freedom of speech. People who voted either way don't have a right not to be offended.
  • mwpt
    mwpt Posts: 2,502 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    Robisere wrote: »
    The fact that you may not agree with that decision, does not allow you to question the intelligence and choice of everyone who cast a vote opposite to yours.

    What?!

    We absolutely should be questioning the choices our fellow countrymen make. That is the whole point of having a democracy, so that we can debate and criticise and educate.

    If we didn't have representative democracy and instead refendumed virtually everything, we'd possibly bring back capital punishment, possibly outlaw gay marriage, possibly do any number of daft and immoral things. We can and absolutely must criticise and question our fellow voters.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    mwpt wrote: »
    What?!

    We absolutely should be questioning the choices our fellow countrymen make. That is the whole point of having a democracy, so that we can debate and criticise and educate.

    If we didn't have representative democracy and instead refendumed virtually everything, we'd possibly bring back capital punishment, possibly outlaw gay marriage, possibly do any number of daft and immoral things. We can and absolutely must criticise and question our fellow voters.

    you don't think much of the swiss model then?
  • mwpt
    mwpt Posts: 2,502 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    you don't think much of the swiss model then?

    Clapton, you've become worse than tiresome with your attempts to make some stupid point with endless meaningless questions. If you want to say something, say it. From now I'm going to avoid your posts or responding to you. You're a master of saying nothing at all but dragging everyone into a debate where you can sit back and throw stupidities out.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    mwpt wrote: »
    Clapton, you've become worse than tiresome with your attempts to make some stupid point with endless meaningless questions. If you want to say something, say it. From now I'm going to avoid your posts or responding to you. You're a master of saying nothing at all but dragging everyone into a debate where you can sit back and throw stupidities out.

    OK so you don't like the swiss democratic model that allows direct democracy via frequent referendum.

    that's OK, you could have just said what is a far fewer words.
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