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Will Britain really leave EU?
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Excellent news.
So the EU blinked first.
If that is what it has done I doubt it will help the UK to rub their noses in it. It does indicate your approach to negotiation however. Negotiation involves compromise on both sides. But I agree it is a positive sign that they want to maintain a strong trading relationship with us.
Of course that will mean the £350m windfall will not exist. But a deal like that might allow us a more progressive "economic withdrawal" but a quicker "political withdrawal", a chance to evolve the relationship with the single market and determine which elements freedom of movement we can live with. But of course other EU members might want the same and some might veto such a deal.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
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gadgetmind wrote: »I don't think anyone fully appreciated the depth and breadth of dislike of immigrants. I'm happy to put up my hand and admit that I for one was in the dark regards how strong feelings were, and seeing interviews with Leave voters in Hartlepool etc. afterwards, and seeing the open race hate crime on the streets since the referendum has been stomach-churning TBH.
Things have definitely been badly handled, and maybe some restriction on free movement might have been possible and might have swung things. But restricting free movement will do a lot of damage in and of itself, and we tried to remain in the EU to retain this freedom (freedoms are good!) but failed. Now we need to fight to keep this freedom while out of the EU.
It's not going to be easy.
If a deal was struck which gave the UK and EU some mutually acceptable economic continuity and the UK control of immigration if not its termination, I suspect May would put it to a second referendum on whether to accept it or not knowing that it would be accepted.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
If a deal was struck which gave the UK and EU some mutually acceptable economic continuity and the UK control of immigration if not its termination, I suspect May would put it to a second referendum on whether to accept it or not knowing that it would be accepted.
Oh God No! Not a second referendum :eek:A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step
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Why do you not invest in the development of UK staff?
We do extensive training of existing employees, have a very active university programme, take a lot of work experience and annual placements students (and sponsor these students in their final years), work with PhD students and university research departments, give guest lectures at universities, and have created "lab in a box" products with teaching material included. I'm sure I've missed something, but you get the flavour.I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0 -
gadgetmind wrote: »We do extensive training of existing employees, have a very active university programme, take a lot of work experience and annual placements students (and sponsor these students in their final years), work with PhD students and university research departments, give guest lectures at universities, and have created "lab in a box" products with teaching material included. I'm sure I've missed something, but you get the flavour.
That's good stuff.
My question though was more related to this section -What we will be doing is employing more people in EU offices, and far fewer in the UK, because getting EU people to move to the UK is already proving difficult.
This isn't something we've decided to do, it's something we're being forced to do. Us doing it will hurt the UK, but it wasn't our decision so I don't feel any tinge of guilt.
Why do you need to get people from the EU to move to the UK? Why not just erm....employ people from the UK?0
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