The EU: IN or OUT?

atush

ManofLeisure wrote: »

That may be the case, but they are often the first to complain when everything goes pear shaped.

Although I respect the fact that people are allowed to use their vote or not, I do find it sad when 'apathy' is stated as the reason for not having done so.

That may not be the case- I think it is your civic duty to vote. While you are allowed to shirk your duty byt not voting, shirking it still is.

I do agree that those who dont, then do complain they dont like the results.

JohnRo

Tammykitty wrote: »

Point out the positives

It's all Corbyn's fault...

jimjames

Tammykitty wrote: »

He has a very good point, the BBC and UK media should stop headlining stories about the declines in the £ and the Stock markets etc.
Point out the positives

Run the story that the FTSE 100 closed on Friday higher than it opened the Monday before.

I think that should apply to ALL reporting of the FTSE and financial markets. It's rarely mentioned how much markets rise but is all over the news when they fall.

The average person therefore thinks it's too risky to invest when in reality they're only seeing one side of the picture.

The FTSE100 may not have dropped too much but the FTSE250 has now fallen 15% since Friday.

lvader

Tammykitty wrote: »

He has a very good point, the BBC and UK media should stop headlining stories about the declines in the £ and the Stock markets etc.


Point out the positives


Run the story that the FTSE 100 closed on Friday higher than it opened the Monday before.

The FTSE is quoted in £...

talexuser

jimjames wrote: »

the FTSE250 has now fallen 15% since Friday.

UK has lost its last remaining AAA rating from S&P.

SimonBlake

Talk about the positives? Talk about the positives?

Let's think about all the investors that have lost much £££ overnight, let's think about the pensioners who have lost huge chunks of their retirement funds, let's think of all the people in banks / real estate and other sectors who will lose their jobs and struggle to pay the bills. Let's also think of the recession that is quite clearly looming for the country that will hit everyone very hard. Do you really think these falls can sustain with no huge repercussions to the average person?

Let's also not forget the tensions that appear to be developing between cultures that could escalate into something very nasty, very quickly.

I wish this nonsense would just stop altogether - it's also infuriating that today the biased media is now trying to make George Osborne a fool for trying to reassure people that the markets are OK.

maxie014

Do you really think theres gonna be no trade deals done?
Last i seen we import 37billion euros worth of german cars,second biggest german car market after usa,citroen,renault,peugot,fiat,vw,skoda,mercedes,audi,uk roads are full of these.All sorts of eu imports,they make more out of us than we do them do they not?
Also uk exports have gone down,german and most others up?
Either we make a load of crap,or we were being stitched up?
Im sure theres going to be compromises,but im also sure theres going to be trade deals done.

JohnRo

If the people buying those cars relocate then we stop importing them... that doesn't mean BMW stop making cars.

jeez talk about myopic.

SimonBlake

maxie014 wrote: »

Do you really think theres gonna be no trade deals done?
Last i seen we import 37billion euros worth of german cars,second biggest german car market after usa,citroen,renault,peugot,fiat,vw,skoda,mercedes,audi,uk roads are full of these.All sorts of eu imports,they make more out of us than we do them do they not?
Also uk exports have gone down,german and most others up?
Either we make a load of crap,or we were being stitched up?
Im sure theres going to be compromises,but im also sure theres going to be trade deals done.

This is all hypothetical, unsupported talk. The real facts of the matter are in the markets - soon to be felt by all of us very tangibly.

Saying we are strong, we can do it, we are the best at everything because we are from Britain is all talk - look at England losing to Iceland for example.

Also, we're pinning all our hopes on these magical trade deals to come to fruition - when the best and most beneficial and convenient trade deals we had were already established within the European Union.

Boris & Co may have fooled the British public, but they will not fool world leaders - this will not be straightforward by any means.

savings_my_hobby

Did anyone hear Mervin King's interview today?