The EU: IN or OUT?

bigfreddiel

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Hardly.

52% of 72% is 37% - not what most of us call a majority.

If you don't vote it doesn't count so yes 52% is a majority.

Those who didn't vote just aren't bothered one way or another

So in fact they did vote if you think of it as three options

IN. OUT. DONT CARE.

So it was 100% vote simples

VSC

blutto wrote: »

This guy is clearly for remain and has sour grapes on the verdict!

If you are referring to the second EU petition, actually it was started by a leave campaigner


http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-second-eu-referendum-petition-was-started-by-rightwing-activist-who-backed-brexit-a3281026.html

LoveLifeAgain

talexuser wrote: »

The backtracking so far is stupendous:
Within minutes Farage on breakfast TV saying the 350 milllion cannot be spent on the NHS now (as plastered on the bus) and that was never his promise.
Very prominent leave MEP Hannan on Newsnight saying we never promised any numbers on immigration and joining the free trade area means we will still have free movement of labour.
Javid on Marr show refused to say there would now be the recession he predicted during the campaign or all the terrible consequences he promised from a leave vote... because he's going to prevent it by talking to a lot of business people.

And politicians wonder why they have an image problem?

I watched that and he was asked if he would now spend the savings on the NHS. How could he possibly say anything except no because he is not in and unlikely to ever be in the Government. It is the current government who will make these decisions. Maybe if he was the Prime Minister his answer would be important. MEP's will also have no power after we leave the EU which could be quicker than expected, there is far too much knee jerking going on and I hope it all settles down soon. The media.......:eek:

benjus

VSC wrote: »

If you are referring to the second EU petition, actually it was started by a leave campaigner


http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-second-eu-referendum-petition-was-started-by-rightwing-activist-who-backed-brexit-a3281026.html

A Leave campaigner with premature sour grapes because he/she expected them to lose the referendum.

Anyway, the whole idea is ridiculous. I don't like the result, but I want to live in a democracy, not some pale imitation of a democracy where we go through the motions of voting but the answer has been pre-determined. If there's one positive thing I've seen in this whole sorry episode so far, it's that the conspiracy theorists going on about voting with a pen were wrong: we don't fix elections/referendums in this country.

benjus

LoveLifeAgain wrote: »

I watched that and he was asked if he would now spend the savings on the NHS. How could he possibly say anything except no because he is not in and unlikely to ever be in the Government. It is the current government who will make these decisions. Maybe if he was the Prime Minister his answer would be important. MEP's will also have no power after we leave the EU which could be quicker than expected, there is far too much knee jerking going on and I hope it all settles down soon. The media.......:eek:

He could have said something along the lines of "it wasn't my promise and I can't deliver it personally, but the Leave campaign will exert strong pressure on the government to deliver it". The way he responded suggested that he knew it was a lie (or at best deliberately misleading) from the start.

VSC

benjus wrote: »

A Leave campaigner with premature sour grapes because he/she expected them to lose the referendum.

Anyway, the whole idea is ridiculous. I don't like the result, but I want to live in a democracy, not some pale imitation of a democracy where we go through the motions of voting but the answer has been pre-determined. If there's one positive thing I've seen in this whole sorry episode so far, it's that the conspiracy theorists going on about voting with a pen were wrong: we don't fix elections/referendums in this country.

I totally agree .. we had the referendum and obtained a result - now we stick it to it.


Saying that the Electoral Commission is looking in to missing votes from expats. I don't expect that it would make any difference at all to the results .

veryintrigued

Its blinking funny that some on social media are suggesting that people over x years of age shouldn't have been able to vote.

Thank God for those EC anti age discrimination directives eh?

savings_my_hobby

benjus wrote: »

A Leave campaigner with premature sour grapes because he/she expected them to lose the referendum.

Anyway, the whole idea is ridiculous. I don't like the result, but I want to live in a democracy, not some pale imitation of a democracy where we go through the motions of voting but the answer has been pre-determined. If there's one positive thing I've seen in this whole sorry episode so far, it's that the conspiracy theorists going on about voting with a pen were wrong: we don't fix elections/referendums in this country.

Apart from the way you voted I totally agree.

Bogof_Babe

I bet blutto isn't much of an oil painting either!

bigadaj

saver861 wrote: »

Did you go to sleep in the last century and just woke up?

Surely the century before last.