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Marriage Crisis

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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    I read it as once - perhaps we had better both check.

    Pouring water on someone is an assault, just fyi.
  • missbiggles1
    missbiggles1 Posts: 17,481 Forumite
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    Guest101 wrote: »
    Pouring water on someone is an assault, just fyi.

    Just as well you were never present in our university bar then - not an infrequent occurrence!

    Seriously, conflating something like that with hitting someone just trivialises genuine assault and domestic violence generally.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Just as well you were never present in our university bar then - not an infrequent occurrence!

    Seriously, conflating something like that with hitting someone just trivialises genuine assault and domestic violence generally.



    Can I suggest you look up the definitions of various offences.


    Punching someone is almost never an assault, but actually a battery/GBH/ABH - often lessened to a common law assault as it's easier to convict on.


    What happened in your university bar is not likely to be an assault as the action was unlikely to be malicious
  • Domayne
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    Guest101 wrote: »
    'he deserved it' certainly sounds like condoning it.


    "I don't hit women, but my wife didn't have tea ready when I got it, she deserved it on that occasion"


    Yes every circumstance is different. I agree with you. But you choose to be violent. No-one holds a gun to your head (or anyone's head)


    It's not a 'one off', and once those services are involved she can get the help she clearly needs. The OP shouldn't have to put up until she decides for herself.

    He did deserve it. But that still doesn't make it 'OK'
    Going out and fathering a baby with someone else is a lot different from not having dinner ready though? And a few times through pure rage (Which actually can be VERY hard to control - Again, DOES NOT MAKE IT OK) One time he did hit me back and split my lip, Wasn't ok but I did deserve it because I hit him first.
    It was a one off, He said it in his post. I wouldn't call pouring water on someone 'assault', but again, just my opinion
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  • -taff
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    Sounds like Post natal depression...Can she go to her doctor? Can you go with her?
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  • Guest101
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    Domayne wrote: »
    He did deserve it. But that still doesn't make it 'OK'
    Going out and fathering a baby with someone else is a lot different from not having dinner ready though? And a few times through pure rage (Which actually can be VERY hard to control - Again, DOES NOT MAKE IT OK) One time he did hit me back and split my lip, Wasn't ok but I did deserve it because I hit him first.
    It was a one off, He said it in his post. I wouldn't call pouring water on someone 'assault', but again, just my opinion



    Ok


    1: If he's going to cheat on you and get someone pregnant, clearly he didn't want you and you are better off without him. Leaving him - great move. Striking him - a crime.
    2: If you have issues with rage, you may wish to seek assistance with that, so that in the future you aren't facing a prosecution
    3: Him striking you back, was ok, as that would be self defence.
    4: The case law provides that pouring water over him was a common law assault.
  • missbiggles1
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    Guest101 wrote: »
    Can I suggest you look up the definitions of various offences.


    Punching someone is almost never an assault, but actually a battery/GBH/ABH - often lessened to a common law assault as it's easier to convict on.


    What happened in your university bar is not likely to be an assault as the action was unlikely to be malicious

    I doubt that someone pouring a glass of water over his or her partner is "malicious" either.

    As we aren't in a court of law, I didn't think there was any need to get legalistic over terms - common sense is generally a better option.
  • Domayne
    Domayne Posts: 623 Forumite
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    Guest101 wrote: »
    Ok


    1: If he's going to cheat on you and get someone pregnant, clearly he didn't want you and you are better off without him. Leaving him - great move. Striking him - a crime.
    2: If you have issues with rage, you may wish to seek assistance with that, so that in the future you aren't facing a prosecution
    3: Him striking you back, was ok, as that would be self defence.
    4: The case law provides that pouring water over him was a common law assault.

    1 - he did want be be with me, Since we are still together 8 years later, Striking him - wrong yes but he deserved it at the time
    2 - I don't have issues with rage, I have issues with my bf being an utter idiot at times
    3 - conceded
    4 - :rotfl:

    Anyway I'm not here to debate MY relationship, I'm trying to say that violence is NOT OK, BUT SOMETIMES THINGS HAPPEN and it doesn't make you a violent person overall and just because she hit him ONE time, DOES NOT mean that she is a threat to their daughter!
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  • peachyprice
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    Domayne wrote: »
    I never said any time is 'ok' to hit anyone, I even said in my first post that it's NOT ok and that I don't condone it, But every circumstance is different and not everything is black and white, I don't think 'Leave her and get the police/social services involved' for a one off incident is the solution.


    Exactly, just because YOU could hit a man but not a baby doesn't mean the same applies to everyone else.
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  • Domayne
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    Exactly, just because YOU could hit a man but not a baby doesn't mean the same applies to anyone else.

    True. But I think Andy would be a good judge of character as to whether she could be a threat to their daughter since he sees their interaction and they have been together for 6+ years...
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